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post #2271 of 6298 (permalink) Old 09-22-2016, 10:42 PM
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Finally took some pics of how to fix the scroll wheel:
  1. Remove the mouse feet, unscrew the 4 screws holding the mouse together
  2. Lift the back up because there is a seal in the front

  3. Be careful with the flex cable, lift up the black bar on the connector and the cable should easily slide out the top
  4. Unscrew the 2 screws holding the encoder and mouse wheel down and take out the little pcb with the wheel

  5. Put some tape, plastic, whatever you'd like on the left side of the scroll wheel holder. Don't put too much, there needs to be some tolerance between the wheel and holder. Just make sure it doesn't put pressure on the wheel

  6. Now this step is not necessary. The steps above solve the annoying shifting back and forth of the wheel when in use. This step solves the wheel rattling when scrolling up and when you shake the mouse vigorously. Take the top shell and some thin double sided tape. Put a small piece of foam across where I marked with the green. I used a 2mm thin piece of open cell foam that I cut out from foam packaging
  7. Now assemble it all back together

I don't even know anymore
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post #2272 of 6298 (permalink) Old 09-22-2016, 11:36 PM
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I don't think hyperglide will be making any new mousefeet anytime soon for these mice, your best bet would be getting a mousepad that works with the stock skates for now

My opinion is

frictionless fast glide = qck heavy

glide with some control = artisan hayate

Can't recommend any of my other pads at the moment
Weird how it would feel fine on the QcK Heavy but not the Zowie G-SR. It would be kind of absurd to need to buy a new mousepad to get it to glide correctly. Are they not rounded at the edges or something?
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Finally took some pics of how to fix the scroll wheel:
  1. Be careful with the flex cable, lift up the black bar on the connector and the cable should easily slide out the top
  2. Unscrew the 2 screws holding the encoder and mouse wheel down and take out the little pcb with the wheel

  3. Put some tape, plastic, whatever you'd like on the left side of the scroll wheel holder. Don't put too much, there needs to be some tolerance between the wheel and holder. Just make sure it doesn't put pressure on the wheel


Damn, this looks like a an engine bay of some sports car with bits and pieces going everywhere.

Essence of creating any device is to keep it simple and reliable BUT if you start designing separate, tiny pieces of PCBs and connecting them with extra wires/soldering, then you've got future troubles here.

Use to remember everything was on one pcb with just the front switches and the sensor below it. Not now, it's become a crowded engine bay full of potential disasters doh.gif .
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post #2274 of 6298 (permalink) Old 09-23-2016, 12:00 AM
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So I got both G403... wired and wireless. Wireless is great because it has no cable. The Wired is great because it is lightweight. However, the wireless is heavier and the wired has cable drag. I really dunno which one I wanna keep and which one I wanna return. Both are amazing in their own rights. The shape is very good too.

M3 button is a bit stiff and louder on the wireless than wired for me. Quite a noticeable difference. Other than that its perfect or nearly perfect. No rattle at all too.

Quite happy, I just dont know which one to choose.
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The GPRO is unusable on the goliathus control because of the feet design. Not sure how Logitech manages to mess up the simplest things on their mice like cables and mouse feet.

The actual feet themselves or simply the shape? I can't see why the shape of the Pro's feet would harm glide.
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The actual feet themselves or simply the shape? I can't see why the shape of the Pro's feet would harm glide.

 

Dunno either given that i have one right now on a Goliathus Control.

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The actual feet themselves or simply the shape? I can't see why the shape of the Pro's feet would harm glide.

The contact of the feet to the pad is strange which causes the mouse to dig in and glide poorly. You can feel the mouse stutter as you move it.
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Dunno either given that i have one right now on a Goliathus Control.

Biased? Low standards?

Other people have noticed how poorly the GPRO glides on some pads. This guy even mentions the goliathus pad specifically.

"The mouse feet on my copy are strange. From the pictures I expected the outer edge of the feet to be tapered into the body of the mouse and the rest of the foot to be sticking out from that point but this isn't the case. On mine that tapered edge sticks out FROM the body of the mouse creating small circular contact points on each of the mouse feet and the rest of the foot recesses back into the same height as the outer edge. This means you'll need to consider your mouse mat carefully depending on what you want. I used a Razer Goliathus Control with my EC1-A because it has low static friction in that combination but this isn't true for the G Pro. A flatter, smooth surface is better for low static friction in this case (and probably until the feet wear to an even plane)."

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/53mn4g/g403_g_pro_review/


Also notice how the stiff middle click is mentioned here but OCN's sponsored Team Logitech said nothing. Spooky.

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The actual feet themselves or simply the shape? I can't see why the shape of the Pro's feet would harm glide.

The contact of the feet to the pad is strange which causes the mouse to dig in and glide poorly. You can feel the mouse stutter as you move it.
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Dunno either given that i have one right now on a Goliathus Control.

Biased? Low standards?

Other people have noticed how poorly the GPRO glides on some pads. This guy even mentions the goliathus pad specifically.

"The mouse feet on my copy are strange. From the pictures I expected the outer edge of the feet to be tapered into the body of the mouse and the rest of the foot to be sticking out from that point but this isn't the case. On mine that tapered edge sticks out FROM the body of the mouse creating small circular contact points on each of the mouse feet and the rest of the foot recesses back into the same height as the outer edge. This means you'll need to consider your mouse mat carefully depending on what you want. I used a Razer Goliathus Control with my EC1-A because it has low static friction in that combination but this isn't true for the G Pro. A flatter, smooth surface is better for low static friction in this case (and probably until the feet wear to an even plane)."

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/53mn4g/g403_g_pro_review/

I tried it on Goliathus control and GTF-X, it feels horrible on both.
I guess pads with more rough texture is a no go with the G pro.
It feels better with the G403, but not great.

I guess we need to wait for hotline thick feet to wait how it works.
I cannot use my GTF-X with my G pro because it feels that bad, had to use QCK Heavy which feels good.
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Seal in the front? I guess you mean a warranty seal of some kind?
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Finally took some pics of how to fix the scroll wheel:
  1. Remove the mouse feet, unscrew the 4 screws holding the mouse together
  2. Lift the back up because there is a seal in the front

  3. Be careful with the flex cable, lift up the black bar on the connector and the cable should easily slide out the top
  4. Unscrew the 2 screws holding the encoder and mouse wheel down and take out the little pcb with the wheel

  5. Put some tape, plastic, whatever you'd like on the left side of the scroll wheel holder. Don't put too much, there needs to be some tolerance between the wheel and holder. Just make sure it doesn't put pressure on the wheel

  6. Now this step is not necessary. The steps above solve the annoying shifting back and forth of the wheel when in use. This step solves the wheel rattling when scrolling up and when you shake the mouse vigorously. Take the top shell and some thin double sided tape. Put a small piece of foam across where I marked with the green. I used a 2mm thin piece of open cell foam that I cut out from foam packaging
  7. Now assemble it all back together

thank you, will try later i guess. thumb.gif
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