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post #2141 of 2409 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 04:38 PM
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post #2142 of 2409 (permalink) Old 06-13-2019, 10:24 AM
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@bst I saw a while back that you had made a shell with holes, are you willing to properly make them for us to have it 3D printed? Just below 80 g isn't as impressive today as it was six months ago.
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I really hope there won't be more last minute changes and fixes to do. You can't help but feel sad when you think about it's "soon" going to be a year since this was funded. Yes, I'm fully aware how kickstarter projects work for anybody who's going to comment on that.

However, for your sake bst, I really do hope this mouse is flawless. I still to this day think if you'd been able to launch this back in December/January it would have been a huge success, but now with everyone craving low weight and some of the bigger companies jumping on the bandwagon, It's going to be harder for the Astrum to fit in. I'm sure people who care more about the shape will love this, and to be fair, the current weight estimate isn't horrible by any means, I find it just fine.

At the end of the day, I personally am expecting a "perfect" mouse, which means none of these issues, to list a few ontop of my head;
No creaking shell, no matter how you squeeze/hold/press.
No faulty activation of side buttons if you squeeze too hard.
No double clicks, massive sidesway, too loose M1/M2.
No issues with the sensor/firmware (No updates required after you get the mouse please...)
No panels being broken, bent, too big, too small, not fitting.

I'm sure there's somebody out there that can think of plenty more, but I really do hope whoever you're going to be working with now to send out stuff to backers, that they actually deliver on time and it's not going to be a situation of where people will be waiting months for it to arrive, and backers should be getting this mouse before you put it up for sale, considering the waiting time they'd had to go through. I may be biased of course.

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post #2144 of 2409 (permalink) Old 06-14-2019, 08:23 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Untamedcdr View Post
@bst I saw a while back that you had made a shell with holes, are you willing to properly make them for us to have it 3D printed? Just below 80 g isn't as impressive today as it was six months ago.
Yes, you'll be able to download them.

Quote: Originally Posted by empyr View Post
I really hope there won't be more last minute changes and fixes to do. You can't help but feel sad when you think about it's "soon" going to be a year since this was funded. Yes, I'm fully aware how kickstarter projects work for anybody who's going to comment on that.

However, for your sake bst, I really do hope this mouse is flawless. I still to this day think if you'd been able to launch this back in December/January it would have been a huge success, but now with everyone craving low weight and some of the bigger companies jumping on the bandwagon, It's going to be harder for the Astrum to fit in. I'm sure people who care more about the shape will love this, and to be fair, the current weight estimate isn't horrible by any means, I find it just fine.[etc..]
It hasn't shown any of those issues you listed, its a nice solid mouse. I agree with you about its weight, in that, its light enough. It feels like a really light mouse. I couldn't get it any lighter, not without putting holes all over it, or ruining its structural integrity.

I know people want a light as possible mouse these days, but if I had done that, there was always the risk that in the 2 months it takes to get funding, someone can pretty much copy it and start its tooling with a 2 month advantage on me. Even by accident, one could have come out that was very similar. So I had to do something that wasn't going to be easy, or as desirable to copy, or as likely to exist by accident. Yeah I wish I could just make what I wanted, when I wanted, but the world's not fair

I should say though that for some people, the shape and weight isn't going to be its selling point, its the adjustablity of it. So to judge it on its "base" specifications, is kind of wrong, because they're variable
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im sure most of the people will 3d print their fav shell so it isnt a big problem if bsts shells have some little flaw on it and i know its not everyone that can afford a 3d printer or has a 3d printer store near their house
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Quote: Originally Posted by bst View Post
I should say though that for some people, the shape and weight isn't going to be its selling point, its the adjustablity of it. So to judge it on its "base" specifications, is kind of wrong, because they're variable
Well it is for me . There isn't any alpha shaped other mouse out there, really.
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im sure most of the people will 3d print their fav shell so it isnt a big problem if bsts shells have some little flaw on it and i know its not everyone that can afford a 3d printer or has a 3d printer store near their house
3DHubs.com is really good. Much better than using a home printer, they use much better quality printers, also, since they do it all the time, they're better at making a good print. You can also tell them how you want it printed, like, which way the layers go. You can choose your material as well. You could even get a mouse machined out of aluminium there, lol (would cost a lot though). But I printed a mouse in ABS a while back on there and it came back really nice, and was about £25 I think, maybe less.

You have to design 3D printed mice a bit differently, but in a way its cool when you get used to it. Its a lot easier than designing a mouse for injection molds (don't need draft angles or uniform wall thickness) Just need to keep it simple. Little details don't come out well. But you can do things with it that you can't do with injection molds, which is nice.
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Weight doesn't matter nearly as much as shape and a heavier normal size sub 80g mouse can still feel lighter than small 60g mouse if it has good weight distribution on it which Astrum should have since it has the skeleton inside it for modularity which all the other mice lack and the PCB parts are also divided between the upper and lower levels of the shell. Looking forward to try it out and to see the early reviews pop out, might be the last mouse I will ever get
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might be the last mouse I will ever get
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You can aim well with any mouse, it just takes practice. This theory has been tested and verified. So when shopping, just look for the mouse with all the whistles you want and with minimal amount of deal breakers.
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@bst Any info on the weight of the mouse with honeycomb shells? Might be too early to answer.

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