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I posted in the DM3 Mini thread recently, don't get it. Seriously, it sucks.

Hey, bud. I actually watched your video. While it is disappointing there are so many flaws with it, I actually think I can live with most of them. I shoot with my keyboard, so mouse clicks aren’t very important to me. I literally only need the good shape and sensor (I can swap cable and feet). My only concern is still that change to the front of the buttons (where my middle finger would go, with my 1-3-1 finger grip). Now that you have it, can you tell me if that would be a problem vs. the Kinzu shell? Thanks for all the info, btw!
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i like the glorious xl pad. nice, slow, and smooth to me. it is slower that the g-sr ( i have both) although a do wish it was maybe a little slow er, but thats me thumb.gif

Wow, you’re the first person I’ve heard say the Glorious is slower than the G-SR. I’m assuming you have the black G-SR since you didn’t specify it was another edition. If that’s the case, I’m pleasantly surprised! Can anyone else comment on the Glorious being slower than the G-SR? I’ll add it to my list - thanks!
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No problem - thanks for the info! If you’re able to more closely compare it to the QcK Heavy or G-SR, that’d be super helpful (no worries if not!)

I don't have a qck and haven't used one in many years, but as I recall they were basically goliathus/mantis speed but slower, and very similar to my GF's glorious xl.

Going with that assumption, the cougar control is slower and feels slightly "gritty" instead of being perfectly smooth, almost like an extremely fine sandpaper, or, more accurately, like a high quality microfiber cleaning cloth (the kind with open strands for cleaning cars and stuff, not loops or flat weaves like the kind for cleaning glasses).

There is almost no perceivable difference between static and dynamic friction. It doesn't "stick" in place when you first start moving like most cloth pads do. Very small amounts of force can move it while stationary. On the other hand, it is not in any way fast. it is absolutely the slowest glide pad I've used. Way slower than the qck once you get moving.

it's almost like a hard pad with the speed and cushion effect of a cloth.

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Sorry, don't mean to hijack the thread.

What's the closest mousepad (speed/size-wise) to a Puretrak Talent (blue honeycomb version if it matters)?

It's still in good condition but I'm slightly paranoid/collect mousepads wouldn't mind having backup.
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The blue G-SR SE reminds me of the Talent, going off of memory the smoothness and friction are pretty similar to the Talent.

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I don't have a qck and haven't used one in many years, but as I recall they were basically goliathus/mantis speed but slower, and very similar to my GF's glorious xl.

Going with that assumption, the cougar control is slower and feels slightly "gritty" instead of being perfectly smooth, almost like an extremely fine sandpaper, or, more accurately, like a high quality microfiber cleaning cloth (the kind with open strands for cleaning cars and stuff, not loops or flat weaves like the kind for cleaning glasses).

There is almost no perceivable difference between static and dynamic friction. It doesn't "stick" in place when you first start moving like most cloth pads do. Very small amounts of force can move it while stationary. On the other hand, it is not in any way fast. it is absolutely the slowest glide pad I've used. Way slower than the qck once you get moving.

it's almost like a hard pad with the speed and cushion effect of a cloth.

Thanks so much for the thorough response. Considering it doesn't "stick" in place when you first start moving, would you say that stopping abruptly (for flicks) is more difficult due to the low static friction? I'm definitely interesting in ordering one now, but I just need to figure out what in the world is different about the Control 1 vs. 2 (outside of the obvious stitching/thickness). Thanks again!
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Thanks so much for the thorough response. Considering it doesn't "stick" in place when you first start moving, would you say that stopping abruptly (for flicks) is more difficult due to the low static friction? I'm definitely interesting in ordering one now, but I just need to figure out what in the world is different about the Control 1 vs. 2 (outside of the obvious stitching/thickness). Thanks again!
no clue about the 2. if you find out let me know xD

I'm not really a flicker, so my experience there is kinda worthless. I tried a couple just for practical observation and I consistently overshot slightly and had to rebound. I dont know if thats because of the pad or just because im bad. lol

I also tried on my mionix sargas and did slightly better, but still not great. sargas is another really low static friction pad though, although unlike the cougar control its dynamic friction is also low.

I might dig out one of my more traditional pads to try later. goliathus speed would probably be a good "normal" pad to test.

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no clue about the 2. if you find out let me know xD

I'm not really a flicker, so my experience there is kinda worthless. I tried a couple just for practical observation and I consistently overshot slightly and had to rebound. I dont know if thats because of the pad or just because im bad. lol

I also tried on my mionix sargas and did slightly better, but still not great. sargas is another really low static friction pad though, although unlike the cougar control its dynamic friction is also low.

I might dig out one of my more traditional pads to try later. goliathus speed would probably be a good "normal" pad to test.

Thanks for taking the time to do all of that. Yeah, this is getting a bit confusing to me if I'm honest. I've always been under the impression that less contact with the surface (i.e. a rougher texture) results in a faster glide. Inversely, a smoother surface would result in more contact between the pad and mouse feet, so I always understood that as a slower glide. At the end of the day, I'm just looking for more friction than my G-SR. I've somehow ended up with a shortlist of pads that all have this coarse/rough texture (Dechanic Control, Cougar Control, Cougar Control 2) and I thought those textures = less friction. Meanwhile I'm reading comments all over the internet saying these rougher pads do in fact have more friction. I'm officially lost doh.gif
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no clue about the 2. if you find out let me know xD

I think I've figured it out, by the way. It looks like the Cougar Control 1 shares the same texture as the Goliathus Control / Dechanic Control. The Cougar Control 2 seems to have a texture more similar to the Aqua Control+ by X-ray Pad: https://www.overclock.net/t/1626932/sponsored-aqua-control-by-x-ray-pad/20#post_26006704
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