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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 11-25-2018, 02:13 AM - Thread Starter
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can i just write my random thoughts in a thread?

anyway to start off, holy crap i've accumulated too many mice...
figured i might as well document this to avoid having to dig through my box to check if i have something.

in this pile are:
diy wireless thing (https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...es-oh-yes.html)
g100s modded (https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...are-g100s.html)
zalman zm-m600r modded (https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...l#post25035718)
a really small 3d printed 3360 mouse that someone was working towards... not sure what the status of that project is
logi g102, white, disassembled and with wires soldered to it because i had wanted to sniff the spi signals
logi g102, black, basically new
logi g403 wired, basically new
logi g403 wireless, was my daily driver for laptop for a year or so. usb receiver needs replacing
logi g402, feet cut or pierced to expose screws
logi g502, completely disassembled. sensor board was used in my diy wireless mouse
logi g303, completely disassembled and sensor cut off from pcb for this thread (https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...ng-3366-a.html)
logi g303, feet cut or pierced to expose screws, no cable for no particular reason
logi g302, feet pierced and top feet replaced to expose screws
4.5x logi g100s (i.e. 4 are functional and 0.5 is a top shell and half a pcb lol)
logi g3, feet replaced with hyperglides. this was my first non-office mouse
logi g1, dpi button pcb removed for no particular reason. not sure why i bought this. probably just for the sake of owning one
ms imo1.1, p/n: x08, 0511 (11th week of 2005?)
ms ime3.0 legends edition, with hyperglides, p/n: x80, 1120 (20th week of 2011?)
ms optical mouse blue with feet removed, left click switch worn. p/n: x80, 0612
ms optical mouse blue, basically new. p/n: x08, 0434
ms white wmo, hyperglides, deathadder cable, rear led removed. p/n: x08, 4103 (41th week of 2003?)
ms black wmo, hyperglides. p/n: x80, 0647 (47th week of 2006?)
razer deathadder elite, feet pierced to access screws, cable unbraided
roccat kone pure military, basically new. why did i buy this???
evga torq x3, feet cut to expose screws, some wires sticking out probably because i was sniffing spi signals
evga torq x5, feet cut to expose screws
evga torq x3l, feet cut to expose screws
internals of evga torq x5l, i.e. the parts i didn't use in my diy wireless mouse
ninox aurora, no cable for no particular reason. underrated mouse tbh
azio exo1, feet cut to expose screws
steelseries kinzu v1 sudden attack, feet cut to expose screws
steelseries sensei raw, front partially chewed up by dog
the first finalmouse... holy crap bad memories
corsair m65pro, completely disassembled. this is by far the worst mouse i've ever owned.
adns-9800 sensor board from https://www.tindie.com/products/jkic...motion-sensor/

outside the pile:
logi g pro 3366 with g102 cable (daily driver at home)
logi g pro 3366 with deathadder cable (daily driver at office)
kinzu v1, i think i gave away to someone
logi g900, gave to family
logi g203 white, gave to family

first mice i've bought in like 1.5 years or something:
logi g502 hero
logi g pro hero


thinking about this a little... pretty much 80% of these mice i bought with the goal of learning something about its internals rather than actually using it. or simply for the sake of owning something old/rare (logi g1, kinzu v1, optical mouse blue)
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ah helllll yea

g502 hero internals...
separate sensor pcb with internal illumination

they still have the same grooves as for the 3366's lens in the old g502. guess they wanted to reuse the shell
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Great stuff.
How's the D2F-F-3-7 compared to a D2F-01F for instance?

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Quote: Originally Posted by vanir1337 View Post
Great stuff.
How's the D2F-F-3-7 compared to a D2F-01F for instance?
these hero mice have D2FC-F-K(50M)
these feel more similar to D2FC-F-7Ns. at least in my g pro hero abd g502 hero, the F-Ks are slightly less "clicky" and more linear feeling than the F-7Ns. and I don't like this... i prefer more clicky. by clicky i mean in the sense than 01Fs are more clicky than F-7Ns)

i only ever bought 2 F-3-7s so i don't have much to go off of. but i dont think i can distinguish F-3-7s from 01Fs.

edit: pictures of F-K internals. basically same design as F-7Ns (see e.g. https://electronics.stackexchange.co...nwanted-clicks)
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g pro hero internals

now i'm sorta wondering why i bought the g pro hero...
at least the cable is really nice (as thin as deathadder elite's and slightly less flexible/rubbery)
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the mx518 leg uses some omron at 20mil, not sure which. and yeah they are a bit stiff, not quite like huanos, but stiff. I don't notice them for anything like awping and rifling, but when it comes to semi auto weapons they suck, whereas the classic D2FC-F-7N allow me to turn any semi into a fully automatic gun.
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Good stuff qsxcv, always interesting to read your posts. Too bad we still can't REP people here.

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Quote: Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post
i only ever bought 2 F-3-7s so i don't have much to go off of. but i dont think i can distinguish F-3-7s from 01Fs.
Thanks, won't buy them then, have a load of D2F-01Fs at home.

Good to see they use a proper cable on the G Pro now.

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even the g502 hero has a much much improved braided cable. guess one of their sponsored players finally talked some sense into them...

btw if u ever try to desolder and replace switches manually

someone once told me that one factor contributing to switch longevity is whether the switch was overheated during the soldering process, which can lead to some oxidation of the metal parts inside i guess. this is a plausible explanation for why in the past some of my mice started double clicking immediately and for why some mice (e.g. g100s) are more prone to double clicking than others. so keep the soldering as rapid as possible
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Yeah that's true, and also it says in the datasheets not to click them for a minute or so, to give them time to cool down.

The way I solder in switches is like this, and its pretty fast, even though its probably not the recommended way:

- Put a blob of solder on the tip of the iron
- Touch the switch pin with the blob
- Then push solder into the blob and it will expand and wrap around the pin
- Remove the solder first then remove the iron

You can do 3 pins in quick succession with that technique.
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