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Best of /r/MouseReview

NPC's, parrots, and Logitech fanboys getting outraged at the notion that Logitech have never once claimed their wireless is on par with their own wired mice) (only competitors') and that there are no tests or data to back up this assertion

Bonus: Body shaming on a supposedly mouse enthusiast subreddit where this really shouldn't be relevant (but then again, since when has there ever been relevant discussion on /r/MouseReview?)

Post your best experiences on the MouseReview subreddit, or just funny and ridiculous things you've seen on the sub that constantly insists on making a mockery of itself, and let's all have some fun at the expense of our brothers and sisters on the other side of this coin.
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I'd never trust a wireless mouse over a wired connection if I still played games where dying truly mattered (mmo raid leading, fps squads, etc) I once wiped an entire raid during a stack & kite mechanic cuz my batteries died, thus I ran off the cliff & the whole raid, which was stacked on me, followed me off the side. (MMO, so right click moved my char, n holding down mouse moved forward/auto-attacked.)

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Idk. You see a lot of crap on MouseReview, like people who think their opinions are superior and that everyone shares it with them.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Avalar View Post
Idk. You see a lot of crap on MouseReview, like people who think their opinions are superior and that everyone shares it with them.
And this is the thread where we make fun of that
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well... https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...es-oh-yes.html


i don't know about g pro wireless or g305, but g900 and g403 did not synchronize the mouse's sensor communication with the usb communications of the receiver. see discussion near here
https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...l#post25040664

regarding logi's wired vs wireless... since they (at least for the g303) did not squeeze every last microsecond of latency away, it is entirely possible for a wireless mouse (such as my diy one) to be faster than logi's wired mice.

reliability and robustness is another story. of course wired is superior, but i am fairly certain that in most conditions the wireless is 100% robust. (the communications the mouse makes is way way way simpler than e.g. wifi or anything like that)

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Quote: Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post
well... https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...es-oh-yes.html


i don't know about g pro wireless or g305, but g900 and g403 did not synchronize the mouse's sensor communication with the usb communications of the receiver. see discussion near here
https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...l#post25040664

regarding logi's wired vs wireless... since they (at least for the g303) did not squeeze every last microsecond of latency away, it is entirely possible for a wireless mouse (such as my diy one) to be faster than logi's wired mice.

reliability and robustness is another story. of course wired is superior, but i am fairly certain that in most conditions the wireless is 100% robust. (the communications the mouse makes is way way way simpler than e.g. wifi or anything like that)


Has anyone finally done some click latency testing on the GPW?
I don't see it on the latency compiled sheet.

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Quote: Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post
well... https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...es-oh-yes.html


i don't know about g pro wireless or g305, but g900 and g403 did not synchronize the mouse's sensor communication with the usb communications of the receiver. see discussion near here
https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...l#post25040664

regarding logi's wired vs wireless... since they (at least for the g303) did not squeeze every last microsecond of latency away, it is entirely possible for a wireless mouse (such as my diy one) to be faster than logi's wired mice.

reliability and robustness is another story. of course wired is superior, but i am fairly certain that in most conditions the wireless is 100% robust. (the communications the mouse makes is way way way simpler than e.g. wifi or anything like that)
Do you know how Lightspeed wireless compares to wired input latency on the same mouse? e.g. GPW wired vs GPW wireless. I've not seen testing of this scenario anywhere in my searches. G900, G903, G305, or G703 data would do nicely as well since they should all use similar SROM's, wireless protocols, and firmware. If you don't know for sure, would you hazard a guess as to whether wired might be faster than wireless, or vice-versa? Or perhaps they might be the exact same? I'm very curious to see if there's some performance difference between the two, and, failing that, what qsxcv thinks of the matter. Perhaps you have some inkling as to which might be faster or slower than the other, if there is any difference at all?
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i'm quite certain the difference between the same logi mouse wired and wireless would be less than 1ms. i say this not based on data but based on general experience with messing with logitech products; their engineers tend to not do stupid things and if your (wired or wireless) mouse has more than 1ms of latency (excluding sensor smoothing), you're doing something stupid.

i don't mean that i have 100% confidence in logitech, but just that in general they do things quite well and are reasonably honest. some of my complaints in the past are really just due to holding them to a higher standard than other companies.

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Quote: Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post
i'm quite certain the difference between the same logi mouse wired and wireless would be less than 1ms. i say this not based on data but based on general experience with messing with logitech products; their engineers tend to not do stupid things and if your (wired or wireless) mouse has more than 1ms of latency (excluding sensor smoothing), you're doing something stupid.

i don't mean that i have 100% confidence in logitech, but just that in general they do things quite well and are reasonably honest. some of my complaints in the past are really just due to holding them to a higher standard than other companies.
Well, that's quite comforting to hear
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Quote: Originally Posted by Lurrie View Post
And this is the thread where we make fun of that
Ah Reddit /r/Mousereview, the home of engame mice and serious mice mods like a paracord and new mousefeet (hyperglides)...

And on a serious note:
This subreddit is more of a picdump for showoffs, acting in a swarm mind.
But there are also some guys doing serious stuff, like actual reviews of mice and actual modding (for example /u/rec0nkill).

Let's appreciate that this people have found a place other than overclock.net for this, but sometimes I've got the feeling some lone soul from /r/Mousereview got lost here.


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