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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-13-2019, 05:54 PM - Thread Starter
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Looking for a new mousepad

Currently using a DM Pad, which I really like but I'd like to compare and see if there's anything better. Basically I'm looking for a pad with low static friction, medium-fast glide, even X/Y glide, good durability, and decent stopping power. I think I've narrowed it down to the following

Artisan Zero MID- had the soft, do u think the mid is enough of a difference to make it worth it? I just thought it didn't seem too different from a QCK tbh

HyperX Fury S- have seen mixed things regarding its durability, some say it has lasted them a while while others have said it loses glide. Otherwise I'm def considering this one

Infensus OP- This looks very good, but I'm concerned by how few ppl seem to talk about it. I know that popularity shouldn't matter, but I just figured that a pad that seems this good should have more attention by the enthusiast community yknow?

CM MP510- This looks perfect except for the roughness, which some ppl said was a deal breaker. The roughest pad I ever used was the Dechanic Control, does anyone know how that compares to it?

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Have you heard of the ASUS Scabbard? It sounds like it could fit what you're looking for. I've got one as well as the MP510. The MP510 and Scabbard both use Cordura water resistant fabric but the type/weave is different. The Scabbard is a fine smooth type. It's faster than the MP510, but slower than a hybrid pad like the Aorus AMP500 that I'm trying out atm. The X/Y glide feels even to me. Static friction is pretty low for a cloth pad. It's definitely easier to stop than the hybrid AMP500 though.

I bought it a year or so ago and used it for most of that time. It'a gotten a lot of really good reviews since then too. Definitely check it out. Brandon Taylor on YouTube talks about it in his top 3 favorite desk mats video if you wanted to check that one out.

I've only started trying different pads because I want to see if there's something I like more, so I'm using the AMP500 atm, and I have an Artisan FX Hien Mid and FX Zero Mid on the way, as well as a Glorious XL Heavy. Tbh though I would have been perfectly happy to stick to the Scabbard, and I may end up going back to it, idk. Just wanted to try some of the other big names and see how they are.

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I'm currently using the Roccat Taito and I am still loving it after 5 years (although this is my 2nd one as the first one became quite worn). Every single mouse that I've tried just glides really smooth. There's also the Taito Control which is a little rougher, but I haven't tried it yet.
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I don't know how much stopping power is "decent stopping power", but I can only recommend cordura or hybrid pads, namely the MP510, the Scabbard, and the AMP500. Traditional cloth doesn't work for me now - too much static friction. The 3 I recommended (and Zammin, too) are excellent because they're decently priced, very fast, and available almost everywhere.

As for the roughness, yes, the MP510 is rougher than usual, but I didn't find it in any way annoying or abrasive on the skin. I forgot about it a couple of days into using it, but your YMMV. I think you shouldn't have any problems if your skin isn't overly sensitive.

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I'm currently using the Roccat Taito and I am still loving it after 5 years (although this is my 2nd one as the first one became quite worn). Every single mouse that I've tried just glides really smooth. There's also the Taito Control which is a little rougher, but I haven't tried it yet.
I owned the Taito way back when it released, and I can tell you it's so much worse than a lot of more recently released pads, it shouldn't even be a consideration for the OP.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Zammin View Post
Have you heard of the ASUS Scabbard? It sounds like it could fit what you're looking for. I've got one as well as the MP510. The MP510 and Scabbard both use Cordura water resistant fabric but the type/weave is different. The Scabbard is a fine smooth type. It's faster than the MP510, but slower than a hybrid pad like the Aorus AMP500 that I'm trying out atm. The X/Y glide feels even to me. Static friction is pretty low for a cloth pad. It's definitely easier to stop than the hybrid AMP500 though.

I bought it a year or so ago and used it for most of that time. It'a gotten a lot of really good reviews since then too. Definitely check it out. Brandon Taylor on YouTube talks about it in his top 3 favorite desk mats video if you wanted to check that one out.

I've only started trying different pads because I want to see if there's something I like more, so I'm using the AMP500 atm, and I have an Artisan FX Hien Mid and FX Zero Mid on the way, as well as a Glorious XL Heavy. Tbh though I would have been perfectly happy to stick to the Scabbard, and I may end up going back to it, idk. Just wanted to try some of the other big names and see how they are.
I used to have the Scabbard but I had some tracking problems with my EC2-A with the LOD unfortunately. Although now I have a S2 so maybe the 3360 won't have any problems? I only used the Scabbard for a few days because of how annoying the tracking problems were but I did notice how my tracking aim was significantly better like in pistol rounds in CS. I was overshooting a lot with it but maybe I needed to give it more time, I'll definitely consider buying it again. I just hope that Zowie's implementation of the 3360 doesn't have any problems with the Scabbard.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post
I don't know how much stopping power is "decent stopping power", but I can only recommend cordura or hybrid pads, namely the MP510, the Scabbard, and the AMP500. Traditional cloth doesn't work for me now - too much static friction. The 3 I recommended (and Zammin, too) are excellent because they're decently priced, very fast, and available almost everywhere.

As for the roughness, yes, the MP510 is rougher than usual, but I didn't find it in any way annoying or abrasive on the skin. I forgot about it a couple of days into using it, but your YMMV. I think you shouldn't have any problems if your skin isn't overly sensitive.


I owned the Taito way back when it released, and I can tell you it's so much worse than a lot of more recently released pads, it shouldn't even be a consideration for the OP.
Thank you, I think I might pull the trigger on the MP510. Unfortunately the AMP500 is too small for me, and maybe down the line I'll order the Scabbard again to compare it to the MP510.

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I'm currently using the Roccat Taito and I am still loving it after 5 years (although this is my 2nd one as the first one became quite worn). Every single mouse that I've tried just glides really smooth. There's also the Taito Control which is a little rougher, but I haven't tried it yet.
Never heard of this one before, I'll do some research on it

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Quote: Originally Posted by DeFyYing View Post
I used to have the Scabbard but I had some tracking problems with my EC2-A with the LOD unfortunately. Although now I have a S2 so maybe the 3360 won't have any problems? I only used the Scabbard for a few days because of how annoying the tracking problems were but I did notice how my tracking aim was significantly better like in pistol rounds in CS. I was overshooting a lot with it but maybe I needed to give it more time, I'll definitely consider buying it again. I just hope that Zowie's implementation of the 3360 doesn't have any problems with the Scabbard.
I can't say for sure regarding Zowie mice specifically, but none of my mice have trouble with it, which includes the Model O (3360), G402 (3366), GPW (Hero), Mamba Wireless (3389), Rival 310 (TruMove 3), Rival 600 (TruMove 3+) and HyperX Pulsfire (3310).

My guess would be the Pulsefire is probably the closest to a 3310 equipped Zowie, in that it has no software compatibility or LOD adjustment. Perhaps it may be worth making a separate thread to ask if there are any Scabbard owners with Zowie mice that can confirm.

I can relate to the overshooting thing when getting used to a faster pad, the silicone hybrid pad I'm using at the moment (AMP500) is faster than what I'm used to so it's taking me some time to adjust. I think the Scabbard is a good speed though, it's faster than a typical cloth pad but it's consistent and not too fast to control. It also holds up really well over time and it easy to clean due to the type of fabric used.

I can also confirm that while the MP510 feels "rough" to the touch so to speak, it's not abrasive in any way. It doesn't cause me any discomfort. While the MP510 and Scabbard both use Cordura fabric, their characteristics are slightly different, I would say the MP510 is more of a control type while the Scabbard feels faster.

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It also holds up really well over time and it easy to clean due to the type of fabric used.
Out of curiosity, how have you been cleaning yours?

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Out of curiosity, how have you been cleaning yours?
I just use a fairly damp microfiber cloth and scrub it, then wipe it down with a dry one and repeat until dirt stops coming off onto the cloth and the pad looks clean. Dirt doesn't seem to penetrate the material so most of it wipes off the top fairly easily.

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I just use a fairly damp microfiber cloth and scrub it, then wipe it down with a dry one and repeat until dirt stops coming off onto the cloth and the pad looks clean. Dirt doesn't seem to penetrate the material so most of it wipes off the top fairly easily.
I haven't needed to clean mine yet, but I guess I will have to eventually. I'll use your method.

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