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post #1 of 49 (permalink) Old 01-04-2020, 11:45 PM - Thread Starter
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Smaller Deathadder

Hi, I am looking for a smaller deathadder
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I haven't personally tried them, but any of the "ergo" style zowies in a small form factor might work. There's ultralight stuff like the xtrfy m4, model D, and g-wolves skoll if you're trying to lighter and not smaller, definitely something to consider. Other than that, just look around for palm style mice with a smaller form factor. Most mouse reviewers now include measurements by default. Palm style has gone out of fashion nowadays with the ultralight ambi craze, so, you might have a little bit of a hard time. Hope you find what you're looking for, I've been re-searching for a palm style mouse again but haven't found quite what I want. Was thinking 518 hero but... idk. I prefer hybrid palm like the deathadder style grip, so full palm is different with something like the 518, i.e. (1-3-1) vs (1-2-2). Currently maining the Intellimouse Pro which is more of a 1-2-2 palm grip. You could maybe try the Roccat line or something like that, the new roccat pure kone ultra looks nice. Pricy, but nice. Anyways, hope this helps.




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I tried the EC2 A but the clicks are too stiff, I think I have settled on the mm531
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The Sensei 310 seemed to have one of the best 3360 implementations I've ever tried, so I would probably try a Rival 310 with same sensor if I was you. I haven't personally tried the Rival, but I assume it controls the same as a Sensei 310. Not really sure if it's actually smaller than a Deathadder or not. Maybe by a few %. I'd be using the Sensei 310 myself right now if the shape was better, but they made it a lot worse than a regular Sensei shape.

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I have a Rival 310, the scroll wheel is too far forward & I think it is the same size as DA
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What did you think about the Rival 310 sensor (assuming it's identical to the Sensei 310)? Also, you've never seen scroll wheels too far forward until you've tried the Endgame XM1. It's in another league of too far forward entirely. But otherwise it's a pretty decent mouse.

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Honestly sensors are soo good nowadays that I don't notice any issues
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Honestly sensors are soo good nowadays that I don't notice any issues
I wouldn't say that. If you flip back and forth between an AM010 and 3389, you can easily tell the 3389 feels a hell of a lot more synthetic and overly processed (even if all the error correction and clipping of 'noise' isn't causing high input lag). The 3389 uses two frames of interpolation. Not sure if this particular firmware of the G302 AM010 uses the same 2 or if it's 0, but it feels more raw and responsive for whatever reasons.

I'd really like to try a 3389 firmware without the 2 frames of interpolation to see exactly what it is they're trying to hide here...like if the sensor completely falls apart and is useless without doing that. I heard there was a G303 firmware without it, but companies like Logitech and others for some reason INSIST on putting 2 frames of interpolation on 99% of firmware releases for 3360/3389. It's possible I liked the Sensei 310 3360 implementation a lot better than most other companies because they didn't use 2 frame interpolation on it, but I'm not sure what they used on that mouse. It just felt more responsive than other 3360's.

Then the Sensei Ten with 3389 came out and was worse than the Sensei 310 with 3360 for me sensor-wise, so who the hell knows what these companies are doing.

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If the MM531 doesn't work out for you I reckon the Xtrfy M4 is worth a try. I don't know of any mouse that has the same shape as the DA but smaller, however if your looking for something smaller while remaining a right handed "ergo" shape, the M4 is one of the smaller right handed ergo shapes I've tried. It feels very noticeably smaller in hand than the G-Wolves Skoll whcih is a size in-between the EC1 and EC2. Clicks aren't heavy on the M4 either.

Hopefully the MM531 works out for you but if it doesn't the M4 might be worth a shot.

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Ok, if the mm531 doesn't work out, I will try the M4 😛
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