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post #21 of 67 (permalink) Old 01-21-2020, 01:25 PM
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I'll stick w/ the 110 I have on my son's rig, he seems to love it too as he's only 5 and it's a decent size and mouse to start with. Personally I'll be sticking w/ my Model O for now, but I'm glad to see another mouse get the weightloss treatment w/out having holes all over the shell.

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Sigh...

When will Steelseries learn, 3360 variant or get out, it's 2020 for crying out loud. Would've legit bought it if it had one.

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Yea, I know. Steelseries even had one of the best 3360 implementations too, yet wasted it on the too wide rear end and too slippery sides Sensei 310. Their 3389 in the Sensei Ten wasn't good, so it's either they read this and revert back to using an identical PCB as the Sensei 310 with a better shape shell like a Kana or go up in flames.

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Aside from LOD, is there any tangible benefit a 3360 has over this (or even a TM1)?

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No idea what SteelSeries is doing in terms of smoothing, but the 3331 in the Kain 100 at least has higher jitter than a 3360 across the entire CPI range.

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My copy is in and holy **** they fixed all the problems I had with the Rival 110.

Going to try and main it for the next week or two to get a full experience and see if I can finally find a suitable Revel replacement.

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Aside from LOD, is there any tangible benefit a 3360 has over this (or even a TM1)?
Usually higher tracking speed and overall it's just a facepalm these days. It's such a no brainer, having a 3360 or 3389 in mice just makes it so I don't have to worry about it and just fully focus on shape, weight, etc.

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Usually higher tracking speed and overall it's just a facepalm these days. It's such a no brainer, having a 3360 or 3389 in mice just makes it so I don't have to worry about it and just fully focus on shape, weight, etc.
Makes little difference to me as long as its not interfering with the tracking and there's no glaring faults. As long as it isn't 3050 levels of bad.

I'm OK with a Mercury, a TM1, so on. They're good sensors.

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Ok preliminary findings:

+ Shape differences from the Rival 110 I like. That steep hump in the back is more gradual. Think like the Sensei 310 rear.
+ The coating is great, but shows the contact. Think the XM1, but grippier/tackier.
+ The encoder feels better, but it could just be the worn in R110 vs new R3.
+ Switches and the click action is vastly improved. Think mushy DA vs crispy Sensei 310.
+ Side button placement is also much better. The R110 has them very forwards for whatever reason...
+ Build quality is great for $30. glares at Glorious/G-Wolves/new company of hole clones and their QC lotteries

- The side buttons have more travel distance for me. I have to almost make my thumb flush with the shell to activate.


+/- The subtle finger grooves, I hardly notice it for my index finger for M1. M2 I notice. Could be my finger length. Not a plus or minus, just an observation.

If anyone wants, I could compare the old and the new more. So far, it seems like a huge QoL upgrade.

No issues with sensor. No spins or any issues. No clown horn cursor or swamp alligator.

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Quote: Originally Posted by SmashTV View Post
Ok preliminary findings:

+ Shape differences from the Rival 110 I like. That steep hump in the back is more gradual. Think like the Sensei 310 rear.
+ The coating is great, but shows the contact. Think the XM1, but grippier/tackier.
+ The encoder feels better, but it could just be the worn in R110 vs new R3.
+ Switches and the click action is vastly improved. Think mushy DA vs crispy Sensei 310.
+ Side button placement is also much better. The R110 has them very forwards for whatever reason...
+ Build quality is great for $30. glares at Glorious/G-Wolves/new company of hole clones and their QC lotteries

- The side buttons have more travel distance for me. I have to almost make my thumb flush with the shell to activate.


+/- The subtle finger grooves, I hardly notice it for my index finger for M1. M2 I notice. Could be my finger length. Not a plus or minus, just an observation.

If anyone wants, I could compare the old and the new more. So far, it seems like a huge QoL upgrade.

No issues with sensor. No spins or any issues. No clown horn cursor or swamp alligator.
Is the LOD still high like on 110?

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