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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 02-03-2020, 02:53 PM - Thread Starter
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Best Wireless Mouse at the moment?

Heyy

Right now i have a G502 3366 sensor.

Which would be the best sensor wise wireless mouse.

Is the hero sensor performance wise lower than the 3366?

I am looking for a g pro/g502 lighspeed or G703 lightspeed do they all have the same hero sensor?


And if yes, right now i hace 1600 dpi which dpi is equal to my sensovoty right now if i get an hero sensor?
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1600 DPI is 1600 DPI.

Find a mouse shape and weight that you like and buy that.

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The HERO seems to be great. It's not worse than the 3366. There's no difference really in practice. You should worry more about how you like the shape of a mouse, its sensor position, the buttons, the weight, etc. I know the 3366 from a Logitech G303 and a Logitech G Pro, and I know the HERO from a Logitech G305.

Note that there are weirdos that say that the HERO "feels" different. My guess would be that surrounding stuff like for example the different mouse feet are doing more to the feel than actual 3366 vs HERO sensor differences.

About your DPI question:

You should measure the DPI for every new mouse you buy. You have to do this yourself, you can't rely on what you see other people report online. The DPI is always a tiny bit different for every single mouse, and sometimes it's a lot different. With "measure" I mean you have to use a ruler and calculator.

That said, I measured pretty much exactly the 800 DPI on my G305 that I've configured in the software. I repeated my measuring a bunch of times and got results between 790 and 810 DPI.

About how to measure DPI: what I do is move the mouse pointer on the desktop from the left to the right edge of the screen, and measure what distance the mouse has to move on the mouse pad. Then divide pixel width of your screen with the distance in inch, and the result is your mouse DPI. Make sure the Windows mouse settings are configured to 1:1 translation of raw coordinates to pixels for this calculation to work right.
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Not sure about all the spec breakdowns and such but so far the G602 has been everything the MX518 was and more. At one point in time I had 6 or 7 of the 518's and I used to do cord repairs and replacements on them when the wires would break. The only issue I have had with the G602 is that the mouse wheel click is acting up. May just need cleaning since it's been around two years that I have been using it on an almost daily basis. But otherwise it's been great. I just attached their little pigtail for the USB adapter to my keyboard so that my mouse is within a couple feet of the mouse when in use. Couple drops of super glue and a couple zip ties on the cord.

The DPI settings to me are a bit of a pain, sure you can run a high DPI sensor super fast and the mouse will twitch around the screen with the flick of the wrist but at a loss of accuracy. So I usually run around the 800DPI setting while the 602 can run up to 2500DPI. What really matters is the polling rate, or how often it reads the sensor. If it's polling at 60 times per second but you sweep across you mousepad super fast it will feel sluggish or like you have to move a lot farther than if you are moving slow. The G602 polls at either 125, 250 or 500 times per second depending on the mode it's set in. The faster it polls the more accurate your mouse movements will be but at the cost of battery life.
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Quote: Originally Posted by deepor View Post

Note that there are weirdos that say that the HERO "feels" different. My guess would be that surrounding stuff like for example the different mouse feet are doing more to the feel than actual 3366 vs HERO sensor differences.
they can feel different, even different versions of the firmware can give different feel on the same mouse. there is no voodoo about this.
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mice - I either use it how they come out of the box, or return them. they should JUST WORK, idc about firmware that helps increase battery life due to RGB drain.

between hero/3366, find the one that fits your hand(for me this means my hand doesn't cramp during heated battle), & makes you 360 no scope with ease.

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Quote: Originally Posted by numberfive View Post
they can feel different, even different versions of the firmware can give different feel on the same mouse. there is no voodoo about this.

Yeah, I know that feel problem. I had it pretty bad in the past. The thing is just, I'm really not sure if it was real or not because I never managed to measure the feel changes objectively.

I tried to measure in a bit of a round-about way by using a game where I could see hit percentages tracked at the end of a match. For example a long time ago with Quake3, I would play a week with one setup and look at what my best percentages for railgun and lightning were in the screenshots I took. I could never actually track a difference there when the problem between setups was something that was just "feel".

Now, if I can't actually see my accuracy changing after a few days of experimenting, what does that "feel" stuff actually mean? Just by meditating about that question, I cured myself of my feel problem. I basically stopped trusting my feelings about the mouse and I can now play with any setup that isn't seriously broken.

Another thing that was super important for my "feel" problem is, I started playing somewhat "pro" back in the day and my clan had a sponsor to travel to LAN tournaments and such. Now about playing in LAN tournaments, there's stuff going on there that's massively more impactful. The feel problems at home are a bit of a joke in comparison. At the LAN you have at least a different chair and table to deal with if it's BYOC, or you might also have to use a different monitor and computer as well. You then desperately learn how to deal with that to do well. That LAN problem then in passing also helped fix those "feel" problems I had at home when experimenting with tweaks.
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Hello



OK thank you for the advise, i think i just go into an store and test some logitech mice. Why cost the g pro and g502 wireless so much more than the g703?



Do the new logitech wireless have to use the logitech g hub software because right now i use the logitech gaming software and i heard that the g hub has lot of bugs.

I also programm the makros for some keyboard keys



My personal best mouse would be the g502 wireless without the side snipe button
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re:Logitech software/mouse
LGS Gaming software works on Gpro wireless mouse. Still not the best software. But can put settings into mouse and remove software(or install from a sandbox) Once you change mouse settings, settings are retained in mouse so you do not need to keep software to use mouse.
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