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How does the sensor on this one compare to the 3360 and 3399?
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post #12 of 239 (permalink) Old 03-04-2020, 07:26 PM
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good ... but a bit weaker overall in terms of "stats" ( CPI , IPS and so on ) ...
I bet it's a Variant of the pmw3331
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CPI 8500 , IPS 300 , max acceleration 35G ... sounds like a pmw 3331 ...

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Hmm so 3331 is just as good as say 3360 but just slightly inferior stats which don't really mean much since it's not going to spin out either way.
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yeah , it's a good sensor , if the implementation is good ...
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No mention of how nobody liked the switches in the regular Viper and they re-used them anyway? lol. Do Razer employees even comprehend that FPS games are not the main market segment in the world for competitive games and if you make switches that are entirely unusable in MOBA-style games your mouse is dead in the water? Even for FPS games I highly doubt heavy Huano-type of switches are liked by the majority.

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they left the screw holes easily accessible. so someone is basically acknowledging you, r0ach.

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Quote: Originally Posted by r0ach View Post
No mention of how nobody liked the switches in the regular Viper and they re-used them anyway? lol. Do Razer employees even comprehend that FPS games are not the main market segment in the world for competitive games and if you make switches that are entirely unusable in MOBA-style games your mouse is dead in the water? Even for FPS games I highly doubt heavy Huano-type of switches are liked by the majority.
While I agree that the optical switches in the standard Viper don't feel great, the ones in the mini actually do have some changes so they aren't completely re-used from the previous mice. Badseed Tech mentions in his review that the switches in the Viper Mini feel closer to normal mechanical ones. As a result of whatever changes they made to achieve this the rated lifespan of the switch has been lowered.

Despite the optical switches not feeling great, the Viper and VU seem to be very popular so I wouldn't class them as dead in the water, but I do still wish they at least stuck to the old Razer branded Omrons instead.

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Razer is like a standard, bloated, zombie corporation at this point on cruise control like every other corporation in America if they can't figure out after making mice for a few decades what type of switches people like and don't like in mice. Before they spend a cent engineering switches they should already know what they want them to feel and sound like in the end, but it seems they don't. And if people don't like them, they don't seem to understand when to cut their losses and switch to something else. This is the textbook definition of zombie corporation.

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Even for FPS games I highly doubt heavy Huano-type of switches are liked by the majority.
I do love any Huano switch. LOVE them to death.

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And if people don't like them, they don't seem to understand when to cut their losses and switch to something else. This is the textbook definition of zombie corporation.
But for the young crowd, who still love these Zombies. They are for them, the penultimate gaming company out there.

It's like watching another episode of the Walking Dead, where Negan belts the Zombie Freaks over and over again for choosing Razer Corp. Then later watching them squirm around in pieces, as they try to justify their purchase .
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Razer is like a standard, bloated, zombie corporation at this point on cruise control like every other corporation in America if they can't figure out after making mice for a few decades what type of switches people like and don't like in mice. Before they spend a cent engineering switches they should already know what they want them to feel and sound like in the end, but it seems they don't. And if people don't like them, they don't seem to understand when to cut their losses and switch to something else. This is the textbook definition of zombie corporation.
It's all for marketing purposes. It's so they can put "super l33t zero latency optical laser switches" on the box. The same reason Logitech and so many other big manufacturers use those Omron D2FC-F-K switches, so they can say "50 MILLION CLICKS" on the box. Those 50M click switches are one of the least liked switches and are notorious for developing double-clicking, especially in mice like the GPW. But they still use them because 50M clicks sounds better than 20M or 10M to the average buyer, even if the switches with lower life spans have better tactility.

IMO Razer's biggest issue is Synapse 3. It's one of the bloatiest pieces of mouse software out there. :/

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