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post #11 of 71 (permalink) Old 05-25-2020, 08:23 PM
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but ... if I just order an ODM mouse ( as 1k Units ) ... 1 with 3050 and 1 with 3360 ... that cost me around max ~2EUR more per mouse ... so come on
and I dont criticize that u start thinking DAv2 Mini first or only in Asia Market , I always criticize if Mice just came out for one "market" ! , production and so on always gets cheaper and cheaper , but products always cost more ... btw taxes which are "big players" try to not or do not pay u know too ...
blablabla ...
but just simple ... if U make products release it for the *** whole World !
adjust the price , we always pay more ... and big companys try to pay nearly nothing ... np , but dont make it Asia , US , EU , Africa only ... oh I forgot Australia ( everyone forget them )
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Quote: Originally Posted by Razer_TheFiend View Post
We did large scale testing across the world (including 4 people from OCN), but the feedback on the shape was mixed. Only Asian markets were overwhelmingly aligned on what they wanted. The poll is to reconsider if there is any interest in the mouse at this size.

To be clear when I say limited, I mean that in terms of outlets/channels where it will be available, not in quantity. If you want to buy 10,000 units from Razerstore, go right ahead.

PS : Asia-exclusives aren't a new thing. There was a smaller Salmosa that was never released in western markets too.



I will be extremely blunt... not every mouse is designed to be a flagship. Small mice do a vast majority of their sales in Asia. For western markets, it's easy enough to say "i'd have paid $10 more for such and such upgrade" but 10$ is a HUGE difference in certain markets. Remember that $50 is already a borderline unreasonable amount of money to spend on a mouse for the vast majority of the world, and Asia is nearly 2/3rd of the world's population.

I was watching this video recently, which really conveys exactly the same point (but in context of CPUs) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WFQudXexew
Out of curiosity, how many test units were sent out to western countries for the DA v2 Mini? What was the difference between the western audience's reception of the viper mini in comparison to the DA v2 Mini? Both are incredibly small mice but I don't remember any hesitation from razer to release the viper mini to western audiences.

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I think its blatantly obvious that small mice are just usually cheaper to produce overall. I would assume mice like the Viper Mini, G203, Rival 3, and DA V2 Mini would be mass bought for internet cafe around Asia. So cutting down expenses by employing a sensor that did the job enough makes sense.
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Just my opinion but every company besides Glorious has it SO, SO wrong. Downsizing mice? GREAT. Downgrading the hardware? uh.... no thanks.

Do you guys not see the enormous amounts of complains about high LOD across Reddit, Overclock and other communities? No one likes these budget sensors. I've tried enough of these mice with budget sensors and nowadays when I see them in the specs of the mouse I won't even bother trying the mouse... won't even give it a second thought.

I don't use a Glorious mouse but the fact that they keep the sensor consistent across all their line up is great.

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post #14 of 71 (permalink) Old 05-25-2020, 09:28 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Razer_TheFiend View Post
Remember that $50 is already a borderline unreasonable amount of money to spend on a mouse for the vast majority of the world, and Asia is nearly 2/3rd of the world's population.

Only fact proven to be correct.

Hence you abide by those impediments in regards to releasing any input device.

Just PLEASE stop promoting/pushing your 'Synapse Bloatware' upon any PC system, which severely cripples any real performance gains of the sensor and shape of mouse.

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Quote: Originally Posted by gunit2004 View Post
I don't use a Glorious mouse but the fact that they keep the sensor consistent across all their line up is great.

That is why 'Glorious' deserves it's name here on OCN. We all unfortunately know what Razer stands for here....... certainly nowhere near being like 'Glorious' in anyway possible.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Elrick View Post
That is why 'Glorious' deserves it's name here on OCN. We all unfortunately know what Razer stands for here....... certainly nowhere near being like 'Glorious' in anyway possible.
Couldn't you say that about any big-name peripheral maker?
Logitech, Steelseries, Razer, Zowie

Ghub is as bad as synapse in my honest opinion in terms of usability. At least Razer has been somewhat more communicative and transparent in the last couple of years than Logitech. It's really unfortunate that Cpate was disregarded from everyone on this forum and never swings by anymore.
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That is why 'Glorious' deserves it's name here on OCN. We all unfortunately know what Razer stands for here....... certainly nowhere near being like 'Glorious' in anyway possible.
No mention of roccat, old man?
I’m disappointed.
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No mention of roccat, old man?
I’m disappointed.

Me too, being old means forgetting the REAL decent models of recent years. My fault here, so much other interference from the kids and wife and looking forward, to going back on site soon.

YES, Roccat have always punched above their weight division and even flattened the BIG boys in a few rounds with Gaming .
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Glorious: hey, guys, here's our first mice and first version of our software

>sell great mice and great software, the latter of which is easily better than that of most well established companies

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Intel 6700K
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G.skill Trident Z 3200CL14 8+8
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Crucial M4 256GB
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Fractal Design Core 500
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Windows 10 Education
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Quote: Originally Posted by gunit2004 View Post
No one likes these budget sensors.
I happen to like this particlular sensor more than the flagship sensor - because it offers high LoD.

Even for people who don't like high LoD, this is easily mended. Too low of a LoD is not easily mended (can't be mended at all, in most cases)

Also, the whole CPI race thing... I never use more than 3200 CPI [that's right. I'm not one of those "400 is enough" people] anyway. So 8500 is more than enough for me. I expect it is more than enough for pretty much everyone.

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