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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old 06-02-2020, 03:23 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Razer_TheFiend View Post
All Razer mice since Mamba Wireless (2018) can frequency-hop upto 1000 times a second to always stay on a "clean" channel, which should allow for a much more reliable connection and shouldn't be affected by routers all that much. The most important factor in home setups to NEVER plug in wireless dongles directly into a USB 3 port of your PC (or any USB3 hubs in general). The USB 3 / 2.4G interference absolutely murders wireless performance.

While WiFi routers can also channel-hop, but they don't do it nearly as fast, and are generally less of an issue for wireless mice than USB3 hubs.
Oh wow. I had no idea USB 3 would have an affect on it, I do actually use USB 3. The intel chipset though which has proven to be pretty reliable. Fortunately I'm not going through any issues with it but that could explain why my logitech mice were possibly spazzing out sometimes. My USB 2.0 ports on my rear I/O are actually dead soo I'm out of options until I get a new mobo
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Oh wow. I had no idea USB 3 would have an affect on it, I do actually use USB 3. The intel chipset though which has proven to be pretty reliable. Fortunately I'm not going through any issues with it but that could explain why my logitech mice were possibly spazzing out sometimes. My USB 2.0 ports on my rear I/O are actually dead soo I'm out of options until I get a new mobo
It's quite well known and also well documented : https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...nce-paper.html

That's the main reason why most (if not all) wireless mice come with extenders, so that you can be away from USB 3 hubs/ports on your PC.
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All Razer mice since Mamba Wireless (2018) can frequency-hop upto 1000 times a second to always stay on a "clean" channel, which should allow for a much more reliable connection and shouldn't be affected by routers all that much. The most important factor in home setups to NEVER plug in wireless dongles directly into a USB 3 port of your PC (or any USB3 hubs in general). The USB 3 / 2.4G interference absolutely murders wireless performance.

While WiFi routers can also channel-hop, but they don't do it nearly as fast, and are generally less of an issue for wireless mice than USB3 hubs.
I knew USB 2 was better for mice but I didn't know it was that big of a deal. Good to know! In my situation here everything was always plugged in to USB 2 ports.

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I have a G903 hero, the router is less than 1m away from the receiver and the mouse itself. Never had any problem with it.
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Using a GPW on USB 3.0 with no issues here too. Some people just love to nit-pick.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Razer_TheFiend View Post
It's quite well known and also well documented : https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...nce-paper.html

That's the main reason why most (if not all) wireless mice come with extenders, so that you can be away from USB 3 hubs/ports on your PC.
Damn, I had never heard of that. Thanks for the link!

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Yeah I guess it's just the Kain 200. It doesn't like WIFI. For the last day I will be using this mouse so I could finish up my review (now live) I moved my WIFI router to the floor which puts it about 4 ft away from the mouse with a desk and a cabinet in between. No disconnects or stutters all day. So probably 5 feet with no barrier is what you need for this mouse or it will occasionally stutter.

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i had to do a double take on the thread starter because i thought this was a r0ach thread from the title
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mousetester plot was cleaner without wifi enabled for my gpw.
Most stable was wired tho.
cba to provide screenshots.
No difference for gaming.
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I noticed the same thing a while ago with my gpw. Just leaving this here:
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