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post #61 of 182 (permalink) Old 08-23-2012, 08:09 AM
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Intel doesn't have a performance desktop CPU either. They use an "APU" as well. All this signifies is AMD is doing the same as Intel and making all their processors have a GPU core.
They are APU's but the performance isn't in HD4000 its in the processor cores. The APU's are more balanced. The issue is that we may never see an even slightly competitive high-end performance option from AMD. They may stop even trying on the upper end

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Intel doesn't have a performance desktop CPU either. They use an "APU" as well. All this signifies is AMD is doing the same as Intel and making all their processors have a GPU core.

LGA2011 CPUs don't have integrated graphics.


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They are APU's but the performance isn't in HD4000 its in the processor cores. The APU's are more balanced. The issue is that we may never see an even slightly competitive high-end performance option from AMD. They may stop even trying on the upper end
I doubt AMD will hold back on how much of a 7970 they can cram into a APU. It's just how the schedule for APU's work, that an APU will always be generations behind discrete graphics due to having to share a CPU die. Tho in the future im sure we may see technological advances to open that door. Until then the goal is to kill off all the low end discrete to help save manufactures money (and make themselves more money).


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I doubt AMD will hold back on how much of a 7970 they can cram into a APU. It's just how the schedule for APU's work, that an APU will always be generations behind discrete graphics due to having to share a CPU die. Tho in the future im sure we may see technological advances to open that door. Until then the goal is to kill off all the low end discrete to help save manufactures money (and make themselves more money).

A GPU in the same die as the CPU is more efficient though. That's where the market is heading. We have enough power for the grand majority of everyday applications, so they're trying to make more efficient solutions.

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Apparently AMD will continue making high performance CPUs http://legitreviews.com/news/13942/
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All AMD has to do is come up with a Micro ATX, very discrete tower, with a powerfull GPU(7770-7850), a decent quad-core and 64Gb ssd with windows 8 and 500-1000gb of HDD. This would sell like hot buns. As long as they keep the price under a grand I don't see why best buy wouldn't love those rigs.
Even newegg could sell those.


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I personally believe the integrated CPU GPU is the future. When Rumors started surfacing about the Merger, I was Full of Joy because I knew someday Id Have a CPU with a GPU Stuffed into it, one that had 0 lag between components. I had been waiting for so long for that moment. and now its here and pretty cheap!
For a normal user, possibly, but not for a person who is assembling and repairing his own computer. GFX on die increases power consumption, can severally reduce overclocking, reduces availability of cheap GFX cards, and would drive prices of GFX cards up. In addition it would create problem called socket compatibility.
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For a normal user, possibly, but not for a person who is assembling and repairing his own computer. GFX on die increases power consumption, can severally reduce overclocking, reduces availability of cheap GFX cards, and would drive prices of GFX cards up. In addition it would create problem called socket compatibility.

Look up HSA and AMD's fusion plan.

It's already here. New sockets have been created for them. The thermal envelop is the same as previous processors. These APUs can hybrid-crossfire with cheap graphics cards. And graphics card pricing on the high end comes down to competition with nVidia and AMD.

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I just noticed some very interesting info while doing AMD retail training. They're using Vishera based FX processors, with specs, as a reference for upcoming 2012 desktops.



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Yeah, they better crap or get off the pot and release a damn 8-10 core APU instead of drooling over their precious 4-core apu roadmap.
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