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Quote: Originally Posted by mmonnin View Post
That was the hundreds digit and that's been the digit incremented for a long time. The illogical thing is 2xxx vs 11xx.

There was an 800 series, an 800M. Just not a mainstream desktop card.
https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/ar...-notebook-gpus
Aware of the 800M series, was thinking of the desktop line only.
When it comes to GTX 2xxx vs 11xx, I am fine with either, however I do prefer 2xxx overall. Could be like the old days with 6800 to 7800 to 8800.

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It costs almost a grand to make a GV100 card. Smaller die and no hbm2 are guaranteed unless the new cards cost 250-500 more than their Pascal counterparts.

AMD went with HBM2 because they didn't have the budget for two architectures. Nvidia doesn't have that problem.
I did read several articles earlier on where HBM and GDDR cost pretty much the same to make now, if not sometimes cheaper or slightly more expensive (A lot of back and forth with this), and that large die with low NM was also cheaper to produce (after kinks worked out and steady on after).
So I see it as very likely that this no doubt can come with a nice low NM large die and fast memory.
Wondering how it will be with latency, as that is what I enjoyed about newer generations that the latency overall and frame consistency is much better.

As for GV100 costing near 1000 to produce, I saw an article before that came out where it said less than 200, then suddenly that article was just gone everywhere only to be replaced later with costs over 1000 to make (and therefor they where "generous") and then to be replaced with less than 800, and then right under 1000 was what most ended up with later (According to various articles)... Overall fairly sure that all those cards cost way less than 1000 to produce.


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I would guess like others that Turing may be the Pro Cards/Mining Cards in order to give a clear distinction from the gaming variants. Will be interesting to see what comes out. I will be happy with my 1080Ti SLI for a while to come though as I would wait for the next gen TI variants with some AIB enhancements before jumping boats.
Would be nice in order to not starve the gaming market, as it seems to be a lot of mining lately! Like you looking forward to see what comes out, always exciting with new tech
As for your 1080TI SLI, that should be plenty even for 4K gaming several years down the road. So do not think you will have any issues any day. Even my 1070 @2ghz manages most games fine at 4K!

Quote: Originally Posted by Diablosbud View Post
They name all of their architectures after scientists, though, like Maxwell, Pascal, and Volta. So being named after Turing doesn't necessarily mean that there won't be gaming GPUs with that architecture.
Very true! Although not all after scientists.


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I think NVidia was too far into the volta design to add any dx12 features and therefore skipped to the next design so they don't have another async compute thing going on.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Diablosbud View Post
They name all of their architectures after scientists, though, like Maxwell, Pascal, and Volta. So being named after Turing doesn't necessarily mean that there won't be gaming GPUs with that architecture.
maybe check what field they all specialized in.

physics - which is gaming related; turing is the only machine learning/AI scientist; *the* pioneer at that.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Syan48306 View Post
This one sounds like it probably has to do more with AI and machine learning.

Turing is probably named after Alan Turing who's known for the Turing Test. Which is basically a test to see if a machine can exhibit intelligent behavior.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test


Probably not a gaming GPU
This would be my bet too. Turning as a specialized AI/machine learning uArc (similar to Intel's Nervana) and Ampere for you normal GPU uArc
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Quote: Originally Posted by go4life View Post
I did read several articles earlier on where HBM and GDDR cost pretty much the same to make now, if not sometimes cheaper or slightly more expensive (A lot of back and forth with this), and that large die with low NM was also cheaper to produce (after kinks worked out and steady on after).
HBM costs more than GDDR.
1 TSVs take up a lot of die space to make those connections plus the typical logic transistors are still needed. Die size for the same Gb is higher.
2 There are two more pieces of Si needed for HBM. A logic die and transposer that are not needed for GDDR. They may be simple compared to a GPU or memory but they are huge.
3 TSV complexity is so much higher and there is much more loss in that process.
4 Back end testing and assembly is more complex for HBM.

Pay more for the added B/W and reduced power.


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Hopefully the GTX 2080 is Titan Volta level gaming performance... if so I'll buy one for 699 all day long.
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Turing seems like a GPU for machine learning.

It likely is for Tesla GPUs.

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Quote: Originally Posted by looniam View Post
maybe check what field they all specialized in.

physics - which is gaming related; turing is the only machine learning/AI scientist; *the* pioneer at that.
I'm aware of Turing, I just think that it's a big assumption to label it a machine learning GPU already. Especially since they just released Volta with tensor cores, specially for machine learning.

Edit: Maybe you guys are right, but we don't even know if this rumour is true yet. Anyone can throw out scientist names and claim it's the next gen architecture (or a specialized chip).

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Well we knew Volta wasn't going to be desktop gaming at all. It sounds like Turing is going to be of the gaming persuasion while Ampere follows the naming conventions of the Tesla series.


Its all wait and see anyway.
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NVIDIA Turing is a Crypto-mining Chip Jen-Hsun Huang Made to Save PC Gaming


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