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Old 02-08-2019, 06:37 PM
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Navi is coming out just in time for the holidays. Arcturus will be out in Q1 2020. AMD will finally put GCN to rest after Navi.

At least GFX10(Navi) will have API support for NGG in Vulkan.
I do not think AMD has the manpower to pump GPUs that fast unless they are doing them in parallel which is also not the case. For example, Vega 64 came 1 year after Polaris. After Navi, the next GPU will probably take at least 9 months. My gestimation probably Q2 2020.

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Why was I thinking of Jan lol.

Its Q4 and if thats the case its not amazing for AMD. They like to release stuff like Q3 Sep 30th lol.

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imho, we are only getting Arcturus, Ampere, Arctic Sound. These will be full pipe gpus.

With Nvida releasing GA104 first then GA100/GA102, then GA106/GA108. <== 2020
With AMD launching Arcturus 10(Vega successor), then Arcturus 11(VegaM/Polaris successor), then Arcturus 12(Polaris 12/Baffins successor). <== 2020 as well.

Intel X^e(Arctic Sound) will be in here as well; Datacenter first, Enthusiast second, Mid-range third.

The attack of synchronized 'A' codenames in 2020.

Navi failed its launch cycle. So, we shouldn't expect it, also known as being leap frogged. Hence, why Vega20 + Polaris30 stopgaps instead.


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imho, we are only getting Arcturus, Ampere, Arctic Sound. These will be full pipe gpus.

With Nvida releasing GA104 first then GA100/GA102, then GA106/GA108. <== 2020
With AMD launching Arcturus 10(Vega successor), then Arcturus 11(VegaM/Polaris successor), then Arcturus 12(Polaris 12/Baffins successor). <== 2020 as well.

Intel X^e(Arctic Sound) will be in here as well; Datacenter first, Enthusiast second, Mid-range third.

The attack of synchronized 'A' codenames in 2020.

Navi failed its launch cycle. So, we shouldn't expect it, also known as being leap frogged. Hence, why Vega20 + Polaris30 stopgaps instead.
or it could be segmented like Polaris/Vega.
Navi = $100~$300
Next-Gen = $400~$700 (launched half-year to a year later)

imho segmented launches might actually be more effective with AMD's budget constraints, they could have as much as 2years for each product cycle.
e.g. 2019 low ► 2020 high ► 2021 low ► 2022 high
so 2019 low would last until 2021 low comes in.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Seronx View Post
imho, we are only getting Arcturus, Ampere, Arctic Sound. These will be full pipe gpus.

With Nvida releasing GA104 first then GA100/GA102, then GA106/GA108. <== 2020
With AMD launching Arcturus 10(Vega successor), then Arcturus 11(VegaM/Polaris successor), then Arcturus 12(Polaris 12/Baffins successor). <== 2020 as well.

Intel X^e(Arctic Sound) will be in here as well; Datacenter first, Enthusiast second, Mid-range third.

The attack of synchronized 'A' codenames in 2020.

Navi failed its launch cycle. So, we shouldn't expect it, also known as being leap frogged. Hence, why Vega20 + Polaris30 stopgaps instead.
Seems pretty unlikely since the Lisa Su said Navi was still on track for a 2019 PC release in the earnings call 2 weeks ago.

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In gaming, we will launch our high end Radeon 7 GPU in February, followed by our next generation Navi GPUs later in the year.
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Our gaming growth will be driven by new products. We would see that as we go through this year and with our Radeon 7 launch, as well as our Navi launches on the gaming side.
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Why was I thinking of Jan lol.

Its Q4 and if thats the case its not amazing for AMD. They like to release stuff like Q3 Sep 30th lol.
A good GPU release alongside a great CPU release would probably motivate a lot of people to make exclusively red builds. It'd be great mindshare for AMD.

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Their minds have left to Intel from RTG...

But yes having a good CPU and GPU launch at the same time would be great even if it means that they are say 1-2 months apart in stores but announced with a fixed date.

Navi supposedly needed to be retaped pushing it back another Q. Sadly I think it will still have way too much GCN in it and won't be a from scratch design to get rid of some of their old bottleneck and inefficiencies.

When Navi is ready so are new consoles, it's all tied together.
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Their minds have left to Intel from RTG...

But yes having a good CPU and GPU launch at the same time would be great even if it means that they are say 1-2 months apart in stores but announced with a fixed date.

Navi supposedly needed to be retaped pushing it back another Q. Sadly I think it will still have way too much GCN in it and won't be a from scratch design to get rid of some of their old bottleneck and inefficiencies.

When Navi is ready so are new consoles, it's all tied together.
If the rumours of 40 CU are true it will not suffer GCN bottlenecks. It will be a super clocked r9 290. Its only when you go to 56 CU/ 64 ROP range you face problems but even then I do not think its GCN limitation. Its just the game devs have to use the compute power more in games.

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