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Old 10-24-2018, 06:48 AM
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Does it mean, when you don't use UEFI, you are completely fine?
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Old 10-24-2018, 08:38 AM
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Glad they finally added this to motherboards. Took them long enough! Lenovo and Dell had this implemented years ago. Lenovo's is called Lenovo Service Engine (LSE) I forget what Dell calls it.

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Isn't this similar to the lenovo rootkit problem?




https://thehackernews.com/2015/08/le...t-malware.html

Yes.

This shouldn't come on by default, especially not for DIY users and, as the article says, they should make a much bigger effort in informing people of the option in the BIOS and what it does, and ideally have an option to actually delete it from the EUFI. I still feel that a conventional CD-ROM or DVD-ROM would be the safer option for everybody, including Asus. One day they will stop updating this software for security and future OS compatibility problems - a typical motherboard gets BIOS updates for 2-3 years max - and nobody knows exactly how it will pan out then.

This also opens the door for motherboard tampering and rootkit installations, so I sure hope Asus knows what it is doing. This is the same company that is under FTC audits for 20 years (since 2016) because of their router security problems and lack of appropriate customer notification of said problems (see below), so what they did here without appropriately informing people and turning it on by default is not a good thing.


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3036...-services.html
https://www.zdnet.com/article/asus-h...uter-security/

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Quote: Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post
Yes.

This shouldn't come on by default, especially not for DIY users and, as the article says, they should make a much bigger effort in informing people of the option in the BIOS and what it does, and ideally have an option to actually delete it from the EUFI. I still feel that a conventional CD-ROM or DVD-ROM would be the safer option for everybody, including Asus. One day they will stop updating this software for security and future OS compatibility problems - a typical motherboard gets BIOS updates for 2-3 years max - and nobody knows exactly how it will pan out then.

This also opens the door for motherboard tampering and rootkit installations, so I sure hope Asus knows what it is doing. This is the same company that is under FTC audits for 20 years (since 2016) because of their router security problems and lack of appropriate customer notification of said problems (see below), so what they did here without appropriately informing people and turning it on by default is not a good thing.


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3036...-services.html
https://www.zdnet.com/article/asus-h...uter-security/

god that's disgusting >


I guess I'll stick with my X99 for a bit longer


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Old 10-24-2018, 12:14 PM
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Disable it by default. ASRock has this way better at least since Z97 days. You can copy network driver from UEFI onto USB drive and then install it yourself, etc. No automatic installation nonsense, it's all user action based.
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Go figure something like this was bound to happen. Asus the APPLE of pc hardware.
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I mean, it's annoying but it'll happen if you have a default install of Windows that has the "download other software updates" option enabled. And/or other driver downloads enabled.


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