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post #171 of 1013 (permalink) Old 12-06-2018, 09:23 AM
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Stotty99 should be ignored. He spent most of 2017 trying to shoot down Ryzen1 and is only an argument looking for a place to happen.


The 3600X looks like the one for me. Will it fit on an X370 board?

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I don't quite understand the new naming scheme. I see the gpu division trying to get some of the cpu glow with the 3xxx, but this also closely matches nvidias lineup. RTX 2070 vs RX 3070?

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Quote: Originally Posted by miklkit View Post
Stotty99 should be ignored. He spent most of 2017 trying to shoot down Ryzen1 and is only an argument looking for a place to happen.


The 3600X looks like the one for me. Will it fit on an X370 board?
Ryzen 1 and ryzen 2 are quite terrible gaming cpu's. Ryzen 1 loses to overclocked ivy bridge, ryzen 2 loses to overclocked haswell. These new ryzen chips will likely lose to overclocked 6700k's which will be four years old by the time they launch.

You can ignore me or think whatever you want but im not an idiot, abrasive sure but i know what im talking about and these leaks are bogus.

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Quote: Originally Posted by keikei View Post
I don't quite understand the new naming scheme. I see the gpu division trying to get some of the cpu glow with the 3xxx, but this also closely matches nvidias lineup. RTX 2070 vs RX 3070?
It's most likely deliberate. Likely a sort of "in your face" to nVidia's GPP. Honestly, I thought RTX was too similar to RX already. Maybe nVidia wanted to make the RX cards obscure. RX can be seen as an inferior RTX, if one knows nothing of GPUs. But now AMD stings back with naming their cards 3000 over 2000. And if nVidia comes with its successor to the current cards, naming them RTX 3000 will make things extremely confusing, which is probably an advantage for AMD, because nVidia has too much mind share.

Everyone does this btw... Intel with its B360 over AMD's B350 is another example. This business is quite dirty in terms of naming schemes.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty99 View Post
Ryzen 1 and ryzen 2 are quite terrible gaming cpu's. Ryzen 1 loses to overclocked ivy bridge, ryzen 2 loses to overclocked haswell. These new ryzen chips will likely lose to overclocked 6700k's which will be four years old by the time they launch.

You can ignore me or think whatever you want but im not an idiot, abrasive sure but i know what im talking about and these leaks are bogus.
Oh boy, here you go baiting again.

Oh boy, here i go black listing again.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty99 View Post
Ryzen 1 and ryzen 2 are quite terrible gaming cpu's. Ryzen 1 loses to overclocked ivy bridge, ryzen 2 loses to overclocked haswell. These new ryzen chips will likely lose to overclocked 6700k's which will be four years old by the time they launch.

You can ignore me or think whatever you want but im not an idiot, abrasive sure but i know what im talking about and these leaks are bogus.

Thank you for proving my point once again.

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Oh boy, here you go baiting again.

Oh boy, here i go black listing again.
Baiting? Im literally stating facts.

A max overclocked 3770k will beat a max overclocked 1800x in 9/10 games on the market.
A max overclocked 4790k will beat a max overclocked 2700x in 9/10 games on the market.
A max overclocked 6700k will likely beat a max overclocked 3700x in 9/10 games on the market.

The 1/10 is being generous, most games cannot use more than 4c8t cpu's.

This isnt exactly AMD's fault, most games are optimized for intel chips....which traditionally have maxxed out at 4c8t.

We still arent at the point to where those extra threads matter, although dx12 is starting to finally come around (WoW gets its dx12 multi threading patch next week) hopefully more games follow.

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It's most likely deliberate. Likely a sort of "in your face" to nVidia's GPP. Honestly, I thought RTX was too similar to RX already. Maybe nVidia wanted to make the RX cards obscure. RX can be seen as an inferior RTX, if one knows nothing of GPUs. But now AMD stings back with naming their cards 3000 over 2000. And if nVidia comes with its successor to the current cards, naming them RTX 3000 will make things extremely confusing, which is probably an advantage for AMD, because nVidia has too much mind share.

Everyone does this btw... Intel with its B360 over AMD's B350 is another example. This business is quite dirty in terms of naming schemes.
Nah, lets be honest here. Intel was forced to use B360 because AMD intercepted the number. Nvidia has no reason to bother with AMD's naming scheme.
AMD do have reasons to do so since they are heavy underdogs and lack a brand presence of others, but I am not going to try to defend it as industry wide practice since it was pretty much AMD's doing 99% of time.

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Ryzen 1 and ryzen 2 are quite terrible gaming cpu's. Ryzen 1 loses to overclocked ivy bridge, ryzen 2 loses to overclocked haswell. These new ryzen chips will likely lose to overclocked 6700k's which will be four years old by the time they launch.

You can ignore me or think whatever you want but im not an idiot, abrasive sure but i know what im talking about and these leaks are bogus.
If beating an i5 7600k at a the same price point qualifies as terrible, sure.

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Ryzen 1 and ryzen 2 are quite terrible gaming cpu's. Ryzen 1 loses to overclocked ivy bridge, ryzen 2 loses to overclocked haswell. These new ryzen chips will likely lose to overclocked 6700k's which will be four years old by the time they launch.

You can ignore me or think whatever you want but im not an idiot, abrasive sure but i know what im talking about and these leaks are bogus.
Almost 2 years since Ryzen 1 has been out. A lot more games are starting to use more than 4C. Also 6700K is same as 9900K.

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