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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 01-15-2019, 10:28 AM - Thread Starter
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[Anandtech] Intel Core i9-9990XE : 14C/28T -Up to 5.0/ 255W TDP

"AnandTech has seen documents and supporting information from multiple sources that show that Intel is planning to release a new high-end desktop processor, the Core i9-9990XE. These documents show that the processors will not be sold at retail; rather they will only be sold to system integrators, and then only through a closed online auction. "

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13804...z-auction-only

What? Why? also why 9990XE is 14C vs 9980XE that is 18C? what going on over there? lol.

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post #2 of 43 (permalink) Old 01-15-2019, 10:31 AM
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Only to OEM's through a closed... whaaa?

Lots of speeds but if you make it difficult for reviewers to get their hands on outside of Corsair One and Alienware that's gonna be a mess.

9980XE is already $2k, so could this be a 3k "desktop" CPU?
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If you're confused by this, Intel isn't targeting the enthusiast market with these. The intended market is for HFTs - which care mostly about single-threaded performance and have much bigger pockets than the average consumer.

From what I've heard, Intel has actually been doing this for years. The "system integrators" that they mention are actually specialized vendors that build OC'ed systems for HFTs. For years Intel has already been saving the very top-binned for chips for HFTs who are willing to pay a premium for them. It looks like now they're dedicating a new SKU for them.

This flip-side of this is that, it is difficult to find golden chips among retail samples. Since Intel takes them all out and sells them to the HFTs. So unless vendors like Silicon Lottery get them directly from Intel like the HFT vendors, I'd expect them to be at a disadvantage in terms of getting the best chips.
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Make sense- Intel is using all the time they got before Ryzen 2.0 to sell every expensive chips they can, bcz for now there are some customers waiting.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hwgeek View Post
Make sense- Intel is using all the time they got before Ryzen 2.0 to sell every expensive chips they can, bcz for now there are some customers waiting.
I need to be careful what I say since I'm not entirely sure what I'm allowed to say publicly. But I've been told that Zen2 will not be able to displace Intel for HFTs.

I'll leave that up for interpretation.
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They could have called it the 9940XE, or even XET, eXtreme Edition Turbo. Calling it 9990XE is silly, although it's not the first time that they messed up the naming. Back in the X58 days the i7-970 was a 32nm hexa core, while the i7-975 EE was a 45nm quad core.



Quote: Originally Posted by Mysticial View Post
If you're confused by this, Intel isn't targeting the enthusiast market with these. The intended market is for HFTs - which care mostly about single-threaded performance and have much bigger pockets than the average consumer.

From what I've heard, Intel has actually been doing this for years. The "system integrators" that they mention are actually specialized vendors that build OC'ed systems for HFTs. For years Intel has already been saving the very top-binned for chips for HFTs who are willing to pay a premium for them. It looks like now they're dedicating a new SKU for them.

This flip-side of this is that, it is difficult to find golden chips among retail samples. Since Intel takes them all out and sells them to the HFTs. So unless vendors like Silicon Lottery get them directly from Intel like the HFT vendors, I'd expect them to be at a disadvantage in terms of getting the best chips.

Yeah, I remember several instances, the Nehalem based 2C/4T clocked at 4.4 Ghz and even earlier there were special orders (although I doubt it was for traders, as it was a Front Side Bus motherboard compatibility thing), where they made 2.8 Ghz and even 3 Ghz Pentium 4 Northwoood Socket 478 with a 400 Mhz Front Side Bus, when the regular version available for purchase only goes up to 2.6 Ghz.


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I need to be careful what I say since I'm not entirely sure what I'm allowed to say publicly. But I've been told that Zen2 will not be able to displace Intel for HFTs.

I'll leave that up for interpretation.

Overclocking headroom is probably diminute, which is not surprising considering all we know, the Zen arch and the new 7nm process, but nonetheless disappointing. Hence, more cores with the chiplet design on the mainstream socket. At least they'll be able to match Intel core for core at stock clocks from what it seems.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Hwgeek View Post
"AnandTech has seen documents and supporting information from multiple sources that show that Intel is planning to release a new high-end desktop processor, the Core i9-9990XE. These documents show that the processors will not be sold at retail; rather they will only be sold to system integrators, and then only through a closed online auction. "

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13804...z-auction-only

What? Why? also why 9990XE is 14C vs 9980XE that is 18C? what going on over there? lol.

What do you think?
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How desperate they are getting. Dumping worst dies dies with no iGPUs, now trying to sell best binned chips at insanely limited quantity to selected business customers and even then only to those actually invited to participate and not everyone.
Why 14C? Because finding an 18C chip that can run such clocks is a world record chip, one of a kind, reserved for WRs aka not for sell. How do you think WRs are made by XOC? They get a bunch of pre binned chips, the top dogs you can't buy and then bin the best out of these.
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they really should stop chasing after high clocks, its just netburst all over again.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Mysticial View Post
I need to be careful what I say since I'm not entirely sure what I'm allowed to say publicly. But I've been told that Zen2 will not be able to displace Intel for HFTs.

I'll leave that up for interpretation.
I have an understanding that places me in a similar position and will second this.

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they really should stop chasing after high clocks, its just netburst all over again.
It's far deeper than this. Those that seek this type of product replace their systems routinely regardless. A $10,000 system is not a large expense when compared to the utility such a system provides.


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Quote: Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post
they really should stop chasing after high clocks, its just netburst all over again.
The people using these systems (correctly) likely see a value that far dwarfs even an extremely high price. Specialized tools often demand a specialized price and these are likely people who don't mind running a chiller 24/7 to make sure they can shave every ns off that they can.

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