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[Kitguru] Intel’s 10nm launch may be impacted by chipset issues

"Intel’s struggle to bring 10nm processors to the market has been well documented. During CES, there was some discussion around Ice Lake but very little was said about the accompanying chipset. We have heard through our industry sources (who will remain anonymous) that Intel is struggling in this area, with the upgrade to PCIe 4.0 being an issue in particular. There is some concern that this will end up causing more delays for Intel’s 10nm launch."

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Of course it will they have to find a way to reduce the pcie lanes you'll get then make a cover story to why you will only get 8x or 4x pcie 4.0 lanes and crippled 3.0

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So Intel is struggling to implement PCI-E Gen4 while AMD users can just enable it on older M-board with Bios Update? LMAO :-).
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So Intel is struggling to implement PCI-E Gen4 while AMD users can just enable it on older M-board with Bios Update? LMAO 🙂.
Where did you hear that Gen4 will be compatible with something other than the x570 chipset?


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Where did you hear that Gen4 will be compatible with something other than the x570 chipset?
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...view,5961.html

Tom’s Hardware: Speaking of the enthusiast community, backward-compatibility is a big selling point for Ryzen processors. How does AMD balance the tradeoff between maintaining compatibility with your current platforms, which does restrict options, but also continue to deliver new and exciting technologies, like support for PCIe 4.0?

Lisa Su: A very deliberate decision to have this backwards compatibility for both our server product line and our desktop product line. And the reason is for exactly what you said. We wanted enthusiasts to be able to join the Ryzen family, and then continue to upgrade as Ryzen and Epyc upgraded. It is a balance, but I think it is the right balance that we’ve chosen. We will maintain backward compatibility, but if you want to use all the new features and functions there will be some modest modifications for the new functions, like PCIe Gen 4, for example.
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Quote: Originally Posted by elina08 View Post
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...view,5961.html

Tom’s Hardware: Speaking of the enthusiast community, backward-compatibility is a big selling point for Ryzen processors. How does AMD balance the tradeoff between maintaining compatibility with your current platforms, which does restrict options, but also continue to deliver new and exciting technologies, like support for PCIe 4.0?

Lisa Su: A very deliberate decision to have this backwards compatibility for both our server product line and our desktop product line. And the reason is for exactly what you said. We wanted enthusiasts to be able to join the Ryzen family, and then continue to upgrade as Ryzen and Epyc upgraded. It is a balance, but I think it is the right balance that we’ve chosen. We will maintain backward compatibility, but if you want to use all the new features and functions there will be some modest modifications for the new functions, like PCIe Gen 4, for example.
That doesn't necessarily mean you can magically enable PCIE 4.0 on a PCIE 3.0 motherboard.
It means that the ryzen will be backward compatible, aka, you can put a ryzen that is PCIE 4.0, on a PCIE 3.0 motherboard, and it will work.
It doesn't mean the motherboard will turn into a PCIE 4.0 one.


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Quote: Originally Posted by Defoler View Post
That doesn't necessarily mean you can magically enable PCIE 4.0 on a PCIE 3.0 motherboard.
It means that the ryzen will be backward compatible, aka, you can put a ryzen that is PCIE 4.0, on a PCIE 3.0 motherboard, and it will work.
It doesn't mean the motherboard will turn into a PCIE 4.0 one.
Backwards compatible - if the motherboard is capable and the board manufacturer supplies a bios update to enable. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...ard,38401.html
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Amd should partner with micron make there own Optane that isn't compatible with Intel boards now. Thatd be nice.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Defoler View Post
That doesn't necessarily mean you can magically enable PCIE 4.0 on a PCIE 3.0 motherboard.
It means that the ryzen will be backward compatible, aka, you can put a ryzen that is PCIE 4.0, on a PCIE 3.0 motherboard, and it will work.
It doesn't mean the motherboard will turn into a PCIE 4.0 one.

"We spoke with AMD representatives, who confirmed that 300- and 400-series AM4 motherboards can support PCIe 4.0. AMD will not lock the out feature, instead it will be up to motherboard vendors to validate and qualify the faster standard on its motherboards on a case-by-case basis. Motherboard vendors that do support the feature will enable it through BIOS updates, but those updates will come at the discretion of the vendor. As mentioned below, support could be limited to slots based upon board, switch, and mux layouts."
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