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post #11 of 68 (permalink) Old 02-01-2019, 11:07 PM
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btw the 1060, 1070, 1070 ti, 2060, there's already so many choices that are all pretty close in performance bump in each increment

i think most here would only care about a GTX 1880 Ti

7nm high-end couldn't come sooner...let's see a Navi that can give the 2080 Ti a run for its dinero
The problem with higher end GTX Turing cards is that Nvidia is DESPERATE not to create a scenario where gamers see "RTX" as nothing more than an additional-cost option, which is why the 1660Ti is not just a 2060 with no RTX hardware but is also a further cut-down version of the TU116. Nvidia knows full well what would happen to the 2080Ti if they released a far cheaper 1680Ti that only sacrificed the RTX hardware...


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The problem with higher end GTX Turing cards is that Nvidia is DESPERATE not to create a scenario where gamers see "RTX" as nothing more than an additional-cost option, which is why the 1660Ti is not just a 2060 with no RTX hardware but is also a further cut-down version of the TU116. Nvidia knows full well what would happen to the 2080Ti if they released a far cheaper 1680Ti that only sacrificed the RTX hardware...
because RTX isn't really that enticing, sure you can activate Ray Tracing, but at the cost of framerate and resolution.
at some point RTX would become mainstream, but the current 2000 series isn't it.

now with that in mind, they really shot themselves on the foot by leaving RTX enabled for anything below 2080Ti.
not to mention their die lineup is messed up, TU104 only has 2080, while 2060 and 2070 is TU106! in this case TU106 is "too big" of a die at 445mm².

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GP102 471 mm²
TU106 445 mm²

Even with RT and other extra cores/features not being used the Turing chips run power limited all the time, Pascal had a similar issue with power limits on the higher end chips. Locked low voltages, locked low power limits, the Nvidia way of keeping cards cool and efficient. Where as AMD goes and blasts the voltages high, power limits high to try and catch up in performance to the neutered NV cards. Sad but true.

Don't even wanna know how much power TU106 would eat if all features are used fully at once, the thing would go thermonuclear. To get just regular old graphics power unlimited on TU106 it needs around 300W :/ But all cards are stuck with 200-250W max OC. TU106 ideally needs a power limit similar to GP102 but oh no that Nvidia can't allow as people would OC the crap out of their cards, GPU makers would need to use better VRM and even better cooling then they already do Turing cards.

Ray tracing is usable but available software? Limited. Performance? Pretty poor.

They could have invested the die space into regular old graphics hardware but the cards would be power monsters especially when power limits would be high or not present. Most higher performance Nvidia GPUs and even AMD are power limited quite a bit as otherwise they go completely nuts, pushing power astronomical for small performance gains.

GTX Turing... they will keep it all below TU106 level of performance for sure.
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Don't even wanna know how much power TU106 would eat if all features are used fully at once, the thing would go thermonuclear. To get just regular old graphics power unlimited on TU106 it needs around 300W :/ But all cards are stuck with 200-250W max OC. TU106 ideally needs a power limit similar to GP102 but oh no that Nvidia can't allow as people would OC the crap out of their cards, GPU makers would need to use better VRM and even better cooling then they already do Turing cards.

wait for HOF and Kingpin cards i suppose? they tend to be overbuilt in the VRM department.

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The problem with higher end GTX Turing cards is that Nvidia is DESPERATE not to create a scenario where gamers see "RTX" as nothing more than an additional-cost option, which is why the 1660Ti is not just a 2060 with no RTX hardware but is also a further cut-down version of the TU116. Nvidia knows full well what would happen to the 2080Ti if they released a far cheaper 1680Ti that only sacrificed the RTX hardware...
For sure, imagine they put out a GTX 2060 or 2080 without the RTX at a cheaper price. They would sell. I would be interested in a cheaper GTX 2080 without the RTX.
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my guess:
190% 2060 ≈ 1070Ti ~ 1080
160% 1660Ti ≈ 1070
130% 1660 ≈ RX590
100% 1650 ≈ 1060 3GB


perfectly scaled ❤, now if only they're priced really well... meh.
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Saw this recently. Dunno the accuracy or truthfulness of it. According to the source it came from a retailer.
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Saw this recently. Dunno the accuracy or truthfulness of it. According to the source it came from a retailer.
$412.09 price is bad.
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I work for a retailer, we'll have 1160Ti's on 22nd of februari in Belgium

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I work for a retailer, we'll have 1160Ti's on 22nd of februari in Belgium
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