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[Tom's] Intel Confirms Apple Macs Will Switch to Arm CPUs by 2020, Says Report

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Intel officials and developers have reportedly told Axios that Apple is preparing to launch Arm-based Macbooks next year. The report follows a story from Bloomberg Wednesday saying that Apple plans on combining iOS and macOS applications by 2021.
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MacBook Air and MackBook, MackBook Pro will keep using Intel&D.Graphics IMO.
Battery time and Profit per unit... ShareHolders gonna be happy :-).
Also in 2020 TSMC already gonna use improved 7nm+ or even 5nm, so Power and Thermal going to improve even more.

And I still think MacPro will not use Intel.

P.S I think ARM and other custom developed Asic's, etc' are bigger threat for Intel then AMD in the long run.3

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So they will make their own CPU but what about GPUs? I know they make their own stuff for iPhone SOC but for Laptop it's another ball game.

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It will likely be a glorified iPad or chromebook device if it's based on ARM.

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So they're dropping the entire x86 architecture? Going solo again.

I expected this to happen to a certain extent, they're trying to blur the lines between home computing and mobile computing; hopping to combine desktop/mobile into one. Microsoft seems to want to do the same with Windows/Windows Mobile. There must be some power constraint that going ARM solves that can't be done on x86 because other than that I don't understand it, they lose on every other front. I don't know how they would expect to compete, other than at the VERY beginning of their Power PC venture were they in the lead over Intel/IBM, didn't take long from them to get spanked and never recover. With the current economies of scale at work, you would be paying way more for something way crappier on ARM than with x86.

As for mobile/desktop being combined into one, that'll be the bane of computing if there ever was one. Just look at the web now, the mobile web vs the desktop web that we used to have, it sucks. Every website now, replaced nice logical drop down menus and text pages with giant icons, flashing crap, big emoji like buttons like it's a fisher price set because were three and we can't read. Were going backwards... I don't want my desktop to basically be a giant tablet. Microsoft tried that with Windows 8 and failed hard.

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Google is pushing Chrome OS, same deal a really walled in OS. Android is for all intents and purposes just as walled in as iOS, people just don't see it because it all goes on in the background. In reality nothing runs without Google services, the few who have broken out and actually use pure Android need 101 workarounds for most things to work without Google.

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So they will make their own CPU but what about GPUs? I know they make their own stuff for iPhone SOC but for Laptop it's another ball game.
, maybe radeon or adreno? they already have some experience on the both fields, arm and gpus

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I don't have see a problem with this so long as we get massive improvements in performance.

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, maybe radeon or adreno? they already have some experience on the both fields, arm and gpus
They ditched PowerVR so they might be making an in-house solution.

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