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post #151 of 154 (permalink) Old 03-05-2019, 06:50 PM
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Anyone else think 1TB of storage sounds too small for next gen?
Currently the 500GB console is a joke like the 360 20GB one was.

With games approaching and exceeding 100GB (GOW4) 1TB is already feeling small.

It won't be more than a couple years until 1TB is way too small.
Probably but I see them doing it like they did in the past. I don't expect 1TB NVME imo that's bordering impossible, majority of the budget on that might be better spent somewhere else like CPU/GPU/RAM.
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That's actually interesting. I just saw that there's an 8 Core atom for a phone and using old architecture even though it was only released last year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvermont

Then there's Goldmont, Goldmont Plus. All have 4 cores at 6 watts TDP from more than a year ago with the N5000 while AMD at 2019 only has 2 core A6-9220C at 6 watts TDP.

I guess this is one reason they skipped the N5000 in their recent slides in the mobile briefing.

AMD keeps comparing their 2019 A series to 2016 Atoms.

AMD seems that they currently have no direct competitor for the 2017 N5000 atom and it might not be long for its successor to arrive while AMD has nothing yet.

AMD skips A6 to 300U and the jump is 6 watts to 15 watts TDP. Quite a gap in there.

I do wonder if AMD is really trying to do a different approach. Is AMD putting more effort into the tiny iGPUs for ultra low power? The AMD A6 and A4 low power APUs seem to do much better for "games" in their slide but I'm not sure if that's really a feat since they're comparing 2017 atoms to 2019 A series.

I guess it's all about the pricing for AMD like I was thinking earlier. They can't compete in pure efficiency but in the real world, prices can matter more. If AMD won't price these below Intel's atoms, feels somewhat pointless.
Atom is a whole different archtecture than core. It is made to run well at both lower power and performance and cost to make than core or Ryzen. It's made to compete with arm, not steal sales from the core line.
Even if AMD could make Ryzen run in the low cost/low power area of atom and arm, they wouldn't make money at it. Ryzen is a bigger chip that is much faster than what is needed for an impressive boost in console cpu performance. But it may go in there anyways and be as overkill as a downclocked TitanV.

I'll only complain if it costs too much, and the games basically look the same graphically

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Atom is a whole different archtecture than core. It is made to run well at both lower power and performance and cost to make than core or Ryzen. It's made to compete with arm, not steal sales from the core line.
Even if AMD could make Ryzen run in the low cost/low power area of atom and arm, they wouldn't make money at it. Ryzen is a bigger chip that is much faster than what is needed for an impressive boost in console cpu performance. But it may go in there anyways and be as overkill as a downclocked TitanV.

I'll only complain if it costs too much, and the games basically look the same graphically
That's interesting.

I'd so LOVE to see a $ 299 8 core ATOM cheap, fat, actively cooled laptop/netbook. Wonder if it'll make core M irrelevant. Don't even know if there's still core m lol.

Wait, wait. Sorry you lost me with a downclocked TitanV. What does that mean? xD

Yeah, they'll probably put zen next gen or the next gen A series which might finally be a zen.

Have a feeling it'll have the least jump, worse than PS3 to PS4 at least on stills. Can't wait for all those downgrades from PS5/XB2 reveals.
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Atom is a whole different archtecture than core. It is made to run well at both lower power and performance and cost to make than core or Ryzen. It's made to compete with arm, not steal sales from the core line.
Even if AMD could make Ryzen run in the low cost/low power area of atom and arm, they wouldn't make money at it. Ryzen is a bigger chip that is much faster than what is needed for an impressive boost in console cpu performance. But it may go in there anyways and be as overkill as a downclocked TitanV.

I'll only complain if it costs too much, and the games basically look the same graphically
Hopefully we can push moar frames with the new gen consoles. Graphic parody will remain.

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