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post #11 of 154 (permalink) Old 02-25-2019, 07:48 PM
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Seriously doubt the 1TB NVME. IMO it's more likely to be a new hybrid storage system with HDD and NVME where NVME is more of a new cache that's more sophisticated in terms of OS and Game control than traditional PC SSHD.

It may be better to look at low end console as that is where the games are standardized from but that may look kinda sad coming from 1.3TF to 4TF but at least the CPU upgrade seem substantial.

I doubt this listed spec rumor though but we'll see.
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I could see an NVME 1TB SSD in the next generation XBOX X since the prices are finally starting to come down on the technology. It would be especially useful on a console as well to mitigate loading and install times. I think the rumored specs above have a decent chance of coming to pass and if so, would represent a very compelling hardware setup for a console that would be very competitive with even fairly high end PC's (provided Navi performs as expected).

Historically $500 has been the maximum that they've been able to successfully market consoles at, but inflation is a thing, and $599 back in 2006 is not the same thing as $599 in 2020. Everything has gotten significantly more expensive these days...


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It'll be interesting to see the cooling solution they employ for this higher end hardware.
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So which SKU will be the performance target for developers? The Lockhart?

Will 60FPS @ 4K be that performance target?

16 GiB of GDDR6 and a 1 TiB NVMe wow.

Will it support FreeSync?
The lesser one looks geared for ps4pro level graphics, but with local CPU power for next gen. Seems to indicate that Microsoft believes the ps4pro will be the low end of the next console generation.

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Nothing about the PS3 was particularly high end though. Those are pretty good specs for a custom PC. Totally worth it.
Not high end? enthusiasts aside, the majority of PC owners in 2006 had computers that were much worse than what the 360 or ps3 offered at the time. The 360 had a year lead and was selling for $400 at the time the PS3 launched at $600. The PS3 was built like a tank, had a 60gb HDD vs 20GB, had built in wifi, doubled as a blu-ray player (blu ray players were expensive back then), 4 usb ports + additional flash card readers, and HDMI.

The original 360 needed an adapter for HDMI, needed an adapter for wifi, no bluray, and the RROD was far more prevalent than the YLOD on the ps3. In essence you got what you paid for, and the extra $200 for the PS3 was justified. It cost sony about $1k per unit to produce. Oh also dont forget you had a ps2 slim on board so if you were coming from a ps2 which many were you could still play all your old games on the new machine. One last thing to consider, PS3 online was free, 360 was not, over the years you really ended up spending more $ owning a 360 than you did a ps3.


A high end $600 console launching today especially one sporting 12 tflops would be putting it ahead of the gtx 1080ti in a console, which would be a huge leap in power and definitely a bargain at $600. If you take the $400 price of the 360 in 2005/06 and apply 13-14 years of 2% inflation per year thats about $500, so $600 for those rumored specs is great.

I'm not sure about the diskless version only coming with 4 tflops, i would imagine it matches the X at 6 tflops at least, but more likely pushes things to 7-8 tflops.

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Nothing about the PS3 was particularly high end though. Those are pretty good specs for a custom PC. Totally worth it.
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Seriously doubt the 1TB NVME. IMO it's more likely to be a new hybrid storage system with HDD and NVME where NVME is more of a new cache that's more sophisticated in terms of OS and Game control than traditional PC SSHD.

It may be better to look at low end console as that is where the games are standardized from but that may look kinda sad coming from 1.3TF to 4TF but at least the CPU upgrade seem substantial.

I doubt this listed spec rumor though but we'll see.
I looked at low end 1tb NVME drives that can hit 1GB/s read/writes and they go for around $100-150 so its actually feasible to include in these consoles.


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Hmm, everything in line with expected specs except 1TB SSD. I am little skeptical about cheaper SKU getting 1TB SSD when it is likely cost below $300.
I agree. The technology is finally "cheap" enough to be justifiable for the high-end models (never thought I'd ever be talking about tiers in regard to consoles), but it's got to be pretty hard to budget a 1TB SSD into an entry-level product; unless they plan to sell the latter practically at cost and profit on the former.

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is there an indication whether the SSD is actually a soldered onboard design? they could probably manage to cram in a 1TB SSD for less than $100 if they did that.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hTz...253td001t3c101
this SATA SSD for example retails for $100, i'm very sure they aren't selling at a loss.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pxK...e-ct1000p1ssd8
then theres Crucial P1, which is currently selling for $150.

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There is also ADATA SU650 and Micron 960GB @ $100, so in large order they could offer such sdd storage.
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Not all SSDs are expensive. There are cheap not so fast ones, like the MX500 or the WD Blue. Those are barely more than $100 today for 1TB. Don't expect 970 Pro quality SSDs for the consoles.
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Probably QLC NAND for entry level and TRI NAND for higher level. High volume chip prices much lower than retale and this is 2020-2021. As volume of production of concoles increse, nand will have become even cheaper.
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