Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer
Just like their current Radeon VII, I don't believe we'll see anything special from Zen on 7nm compared to Intel's next 14nm refresh.
If you compare VII to vega 64, I expect zen at 7nm (while might not be full 7nm just like the VII isn't full 7nm), to at least increase in speed on the same specs, allowing them to come closer to closing the gap on CPU frequency.
Once that happens, intel will need to start increase the IPC over just increasing the CPU frequency. Even with better 14+++++++, they will start to hit a wall, and that is where they need 10nm to gain speed, or better manufacturing process (like stacks they plan), to gain better IPC.
If progress wise AMD keep the same pace, in a year or two, they will catch intel, and after that, gain on them.
I'm sure intel aren't sitting idle, but for people to start buying, they need to give us a reason to.