Originally Posted by The_Rocker
No, no and no again.
AMD has certainly picked up their game recently AND ONLY RECENTLY. However for performance, Intel still wins, clearly and like I say, has done for the past 13 years ish. I also note you are all AMD owners. Quite rightly defending your purchases.
2 of you have both AMD CPU's and AMD GPU's.... So you are either firmly in the AMD love camp, or just enjoy using slower hardware, and you certainly can't argue with me on the GPU front. The other 1 of you has a 1080ti, good choice, but a Ryzen 1600X up front.... Im guessing this was a financial decision.
Ryzen offers some nice value for money, the 2700X being a great chip. But then we now have the i7 9700K and i9 9900K from Intels mainstream line. Both of which outperform the 2700X, easily. Infact im fairly sure the 8700k with 2 less cores pretty much still beats it.
Threadripper you say? Priced well yes. But then we have the intel i9 X series. Which again.... for raw performance wins again.
Need a high core count workstation? Theres Xeons for that as well, multisocket if you want as well.
Im not talking price/performance here or bang for your buck. Im talking PERFORMANCE.
Ryzen offers GREAT performance for the money, to be honest. The 2700x is only 9% slower is games on average at 1080p and 4% slower at 1440p than the 8700k (which is around where most ppls would be at, with a high end CPU like this) and we're also talking about high FPS here too, not as if you won't be getting 60FPS or 75 or 100 or more with the 2700x.
When we're talking about multi core application, the 2700x is just better overall and that's a fact.
The 9900k is ridiculous in pricing compared to the 2700x but indeed its better at everything.
When we're talking about threadripper and CPUs for professional use, cost/performance is a very important factor. It would be just bad business to buy an intel chip if an AMD one can get you almost the same performance for half the cost.
I agree that for absolute performance and technology, intel wins hands down, but there is so much more than that at play in the real world, which is why AMD has chugged up so much more market share since Zen appeared and will continue to do so in the future.
Also, keep in mind that we're expecting the zen 2 architecture which should deliver on par performance of 8c/16t to the 9900k and if it does this at 60-80% price then there's really no point in getting the 9900k.
I just hope that this will push intel to innovate more and drop them prices down a little if they want to stay competitive because they've been top dog for too long now.
All this coming from an 8700k owner.
edit: just noticed something. While you were picking on the guys you quoted for being in the "AMD love camp", it seems you are quite clearly in the Intel love camp judging by your user title being "Blue and Green Team!" haha