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post #511 of 543 (permalink) Old 07-11-2019, 05:39 AM
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Free water cooler if you buy MSI x570 board
Are they struggling to sell X570 boards....WOW

Free cooler with most X570 boards:
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Seriously, are they struggling to sell their boards?

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MSI probably has a rough time because all their boards under $270 are underwhelming when compared to last gen and the Pro carbon is debatable so maybe even all <$350. Competition has heated up from all vendors and they're just throwing discounts out to blunt the X570 premium.

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Are they struggling to sell X570 boards....WOW

Free cooler with most X570 boards:
A review gets you a $25 Steam voucher
A special review gets you a 250GB Western Digital M.2 SSD
And you can get RGB wall tiles


Seriously, are they struggling to sell their boards?
If your cheaper mobos from previous gens can still run modern hardware, it's hard to convince people to buy your new stuff.

One would guess, anyway.

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This bios/software/driver nonsense has put me off of getting an x570 board for a little while. I am going to wait until enough of them are in users hands before I figure out which one to get, or if I should even get one. I was going to get a 3600x for my work computer but microcenter is selling the 2700x for $30 less ($220) so I am going to get another 2700x instead.

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This bios/software/driver nonsense has put me off of getting an x570 board for a little while. I am going to wait until enough of them are in users hands before I figure out which one to get, or if I should even get one. I was going to get a 3600x for my work computer but microcenter is selling the 2700x for $30 less ($220) so I am going to get another 2700x instead.
Their $120 2600 seems to be the sweetspot honestly. This launch is really going to stir up the used/new last gen stuff.
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Hello,

I hope this is a good place to get some advice, I haven't posted anything on OC.net for almost 2 years, so I hope I am not breaking any rules.

After 5 years running the FM2+ platform, it's time for me to upgrade. I was patiently waiting for developments around RyZen 3000, and I believe now it's a good time for a new PC from the scratch.

With that said: what's the word about ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE ?

To me, it seems to be quite durable, none of that RGB blink that I don't need, power delivery also seems to be quite good, and all in all it looks to be a quite decent motherboard.
I plan to drop in 3800x with 0 intention to overclock, and maybe down the road then drop in 3950x when I move away from games to some serious virtualization work.


I have 2 concerns though (generally about platform):

- AM4 socket - AMD said they will support it till 2020, and I am not sure what that means. Is it that some future RyZen 4000 might get a new socket, and it will the end-of-the-road ?
- RAM layout - I want to go full scale, so I plan to run 64 GB of memory. I already read about details, and I should get motherboard with T-topology if I want to utilize all 4 DIMM sockets, as opposed to daisy-chain which favours only 2 DIMMs to be occupied. Is there any way to determine which topology is used on which motherboard ? I read somewhere else that ASUS motherboard were always T-topology, but I don't know if it holds up also today. I found this 7 years old thread, which discusses this - maybe [email protected] can comment on this ?


Thanks for any answer to my questions.


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Hello,

I hope this is a good place to get some advice, I haven't posted anything on OC.net for almost 2 years, so I hope I am not breaking any rules.

After 5 years running the FM2+ platform, it's time for me to upgrade. I was patiently waiting for developments around RyZen 3000, and I believe now it's a good time for a new PC from the scratch.

With that said: what's the word about ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE ?

To me, it seems to be quite durable, none of that RGB blink that I don't need, power delivery also seems to be quite good, and all in all it looks to be a quite decent motherboard.
I plan to drop in 3800x with 0 intention to overclock, and maybe down the road then drop in 3950x when I move away from games to some serious virtualization work.


I have 2 concerns though (generally about platform):

- AM4 socket - AMD said they will support it till 2020, and I am not sure what that means. Is it that some future RyZen 4000 might get a new socket, and it will the end-of-the-road ?
- RAM layout - I want to go full scale, so I plan to run 64 GB of memory. I already read about details, and I should get motherboard with T-topology if I want to utilize all 4 DIMM sockets, as opposed to daisy-chain which favours only 2 DIMMs to be occupied. Is there any way to determine which topology is used on which motherboard ? I read somewhere else that ASUS motherboard were always T-topology, but I don't know if it holds up also today. I found this 7 years old thread, which discusses this - maybe [email protected] can comment on this ?


Thanks for any answer to my questions.


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I can't comment specifically on the ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE, but I have been told by multiple sources that the topology of the memory traces is only a factor if you are trying to achieve high memory speeds. If you are planning to run all 4 slots with 3200-3600mhz memory it shouldn't really be a problem on either topology. I would double check for reviews where they test 16gb sticks because they tend to be less compatible.

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Quote: Originally Posted by BobiBolivia View Post
Hello,

I hope this is a good place to get some advice, I haven't posted anything on OC.net for almost 2 years, so I hope I am not breaking any rules.

After 5 years running the FM2+ platform, it's time for me to upgrade. I was patiently waiting for developments around RyZen 3000, and I believe now it's a good time for a new PC from the scratch.

With that said: what's the word about ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE ?

To me, it seems to be quite durable, none of that RGB blink that I don't need, power delivery also seems to be quite good, and all in all it looks to be a quite decent motherboard.
I plan to drop in 3800x with 0 intention to overclock, and maybe down the road then drop in 3950x when I move away from games to some serious virtualization work.

I have 2 concerns though (generally about platform):

- AM4 socket - AMD said they will support it till 2020, and I am not sure what that means. Is it that some future RyZen 4000 might get a new socket, and it will the end-of-the-road ?
- RAM layout - I want to go full scale, so I plan to run 64 GB of memory. I already read about details, and I should get motherboard with T-topology if I want to utilize all 4 DIMM sockets, as opposed to daisy-chain which favours only 2 DIMMs to be occupied. Is there any way to determine which topology is used on which motherboard ? I read somewhere else that ASUS motherboard were always T-topology, but I don't know if it holds up also today. I found this 7 years old thread, which discusses this - maybe [email protected] can comment on this ?


Thanks for any answer to my questions.


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Honestly I feel it's probably worth it to wait for the X570 Creator board pricing from Asrock if you're using it for workstation purposes as that will have Thunderbolt 3 and 10G LAN. (https://www.anandtech.com/show/14461...erbolt-10g-lan) WS Ace simply has X470-E STRIX power delivery and a 1G Realtek LAN tacked on , along with some extra PCIE4.0 bandwidth (3x PCIE 4.0 x16 , up to 3-way x8/x8/x8) and ECC RAM support. Output USB ports and such are fewer in number.



MSI Creation is also worth looking at, though it is another $100 more roughly ($500). There's 10G LAN, M.2 expansion card, 3x PCIE 4.0 slots (x8/x8 and x4 from chipset per https://www.vortez.net/articles_page..._review,6.html).


The Asrock Taichi supports PCIE 4.0 x8/x8 and x4 from chipset as well so I would expect the X570 Creator to have that.


Daisy chain doesn't matter much if you aren't pushing insane memory clocks over 3733 divider. T-topology on Asrock Taichi and maybe Creator.



AM4 support just means AM4 socket will be used. We're already seeing older CPU support being dropped on X570 (mainly the APUs and pre-zen Athlons).

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Which of these would be most recommended. I assume they're all overkill for a 3700X but "cheaper" boards only save $50-$100 and downgrade or cut basically everything useful to me.
I don't need it, but I'd rather spend the money than wait for bios fixes and besides that I just don't like this board or its constantly buggy software so i'm just ready to try something else.

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I was taken aback by the prices but then I noticed you're in Australia, they are a little more expensive than they are here in the states (converted) but not too bad. Most of the boards lean to the overkill side, no matter which 3000 series processor you have, but I think I would choose based on features. If they all have the features you want then I would try to find info on the bios and see which one you prefer. If you're not going to be spending a lot of time in the bios, they all have the features you want, they all fall in your price range, then I would pick the one you think looks best. If you're really into aesthetics and lighting then it may be worth looking into the lighting software for each one them and decide based on that.

Performance seems like it is going to come down to the chip you ended up with (and your cooling solution) more than the board you are using, like the previous generation.

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