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post #121 of 146 (permalink) Old 05-10-2019, 03:09 PM
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Was just about to post that. If true...........
Well, if you need some b-die sticks I would hop to it. The price of those sticks are not gonna come down at all now.

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That's a ridiculous news item. On Coffee Lake the highest available DRAM ratio goes to 8400 MHz, doesn't tell you squat about what frequency to expect on the platform. The 1/2 mode is also bogus and has always existed as an option on Zen.
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So it's still half speed I.F. when the I.F. can't match RAM speed? That means uncore is still going to massively slower than Intel uncore, which is typically 4-4.5GHz
Can't wait to see the new Ryzen 3rd gen in action though.
Actual DRAM clock rate is quite low still though, and testing from 3.5GHz to 4.5GHz on Intel uncore has like a 1% performance difference. So doesnt seem like it will matter that AMDs implementation has a slower clock rate since it isnt needed anyway.

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Honestly who cares about ram at this point, i need to see cores/clocks/pricing!

As an aside, as much fuss that was given to ram speeds and ryzen cpu's my tests shown very little difference between ddr2666 and ddr3200, even in CPU bound titles like World of warcraft or GTA. In fact i saw more performance gains with a mere 100mhz bump to core clock speeds than i got from 2400mhz to 3200mhz ram.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty99 View Post
Honestly who cares about ram at this point, i need to see cores/clocks/pricing!

As an aside, as much fuss that was given to ram speeds and ryzen cpu's my tests shown very little difference between ddr2666 and ddr3200, even in CPU bound titles like World of warcraft or GTA. In fact i saw more performance gains with a mere 100mhz bump to core clock speeds than i got from 2400mhz to 3200mhz ram.
Same here. I've compared 2400 to the 3200. Only difference i saw was on Cinebench15 getting 30 more points. lol. Prolly cos i only have a low end gpu. Mid/low end gpu will be fine at 2400MHz on Ryzens.

Thirty points in Cine, though, is roughly equivalent to 100MHz OC on the cpu.

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Same here. I've compared 2400 to the 3200. Only difference i saw was on Cinebench15 getting 30 more points. lol. Prolly cos i only have a low end gpu. Mid/low end gpu will be fine at 2400MHz on Ryzens.

Thirty points in Cine, though, is roughly equivalent to 100MHz OC on the cpu.
RAM speed actually increased my R20 score.

Top is @2133mhz

Bottom is @3200MHz

RAM speed does matter. Maybe not in every scenario, but 3200mhz certainly made my system snappier than 2133mhz.

Single Core jumped nearly 40points. I'd say RAM speed matters. I don't know about higher yet but I intend to see what I can wring out of my b-dies.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post
RAM speed actually increased my R20 score.

Top is @2133mhz

Bottom is @3200MHz

RAM speed does matter. Maybe not in every scenario, but 3200mhz certainly made my system snappier than 2133mhz.

Single Core jumped nearly 40points. I'd say RAM speed matters. I don't know about higher yet but I intend to see what I can wring out of my b-dies.

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I would safely say that jump in score is roughly equivalent to a 75MHz oc on the cpu. Got 100 pts more going from 4GHz to 4.1GHz.

But for gaming, cos i only have a R9 290, really no difference between 2400 and 3200 or even 3333 CL14. Not really looking at fps.

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but 3200mhz certainly made my system snappier than 2133mhz.



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I'm sure it totally did.

You should get someone to do a blind test to see if you can actually tell the "snappiness".

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Updated information, 4.5ghz is all Core Turbo and single Core Turbo is near 5ghz.If we compare two CPU-s, for Ryzen 2 8/16 specifications it will look roughly like this.

Ryzen+ 12nm R7 2700X/3.7ghz, all Core Turbo 4ghz, singlecore Turbo 4.3ghz

Ryzen 2 7nm R5 3600X/4.1ghz, all Core Turbo 4.5ghz, singlecore Turbo 4.8ghz




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~12% clock speed increase is reasonable.

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