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[Tom's Hardware] Intel Client Desktop CPU Roadmap Leaked, Comet Lake and Glacier Falls Coming This Year

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/in...ent,39185.html
Tom's Hardware reference: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/152112/r...rocessors.html

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In either case, according to the new roadmap, we won't see 10nm arrive for the desktop until at least 2021. In the meantime, Comet Lake-S will land on the desktop in the fourth quarter of this year, bringing the mainstream desktop up to 10 cores fabbed on Intel's 14nm process. Cascade Lake X will arrive in the third quarter of 2019, again fabbed on the 14nm process, with up to 18 cores for the X299 chipset. This is effectively a refresh of the Skylake-X refresh for the high-end desktop.

On the server side, the roadmap has a Cascade Lake refresh listed for the first quarter of 2020, but that doesn't align with Intel's stated roadmap that has Cooper Lake on 14nm arriving in 2019 and Ice Lake following in 2020. That could mean that either Intel's plans have changed, or the roadmap is dated.
I thought x299 was dead but it looks like Intel will be releasing Cascade Lake on x299?
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Kind of feels like a white flag on the HEDT market for the next couple years from Intel.


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Intel isn't even trying at this point. At least on the desktop hedt market, it has been stuck on 18c for a couple of years now. You don't even need to wait for cascadelake 18c just get 2990wx by AMD now, more cores and most likely faster overall. The 10 core for mainstream will most likely be dead on arrival after ryzen 3000, the only way it sells is if it is cheap which is unlikely knowing this is intel.

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Intel isn't even trying at this point. At least on the desktop hedt market, it has been stuck on 18c for a couple of years now. You don't even need to wait for cascadelake 18c just get 2990wx by AMD now, more cores and most likely faster overall. The 10 core for mainstream will most likely be dead on arrival after ryzen 3000, the only way it sells is if it is cheap which is unlikely knowing this is intel.
Intel has the most advanced multi-core topology. I say they are just showing off their engineering skills with a 28 core monolithic chip based on an 8 year old architecture. Intel's next generation architecture Ocean Cove is scheduled for 2021 and I'm sure Jim Keller is helping. Inte's Cascade Lake 56 core MCM processor has two 28 core dies with an interconnect.

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“Could we have built a monolithic part? Absolutely. But it would have involved trade-offs that would have dragged our performance down because it would have been too large and too difficult to manufacture. Breaking Moore’s law is what we did with Infinity Fabric. Now thinking about that architectural innovation – so what? How do we think about it providing real performance and real demonstrable value”- Scott Aylor, SVP and GM Enterprise Solutions
AMD's Rome has 16 x 4 core CCX connected with their infinity fabric. We'll soon see how well it competes with Intel's Cascade Lake 56 part. Hopefully they worked with Microsoft to fix their scheduler issue or else it's going to be a problem.

AVX-512 is a large selling point for these HEDT and Xeons for developers who create their own apps.
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Intel has the most advanced multi-core topology. I say they are just showing off their engineering skills with a 28 core monolithic chip based on an 8 year old architecture. Intel's next generation architecture Ocean Cove is scheduled for 2021 and I'm sure Jim Keller is helping. Inte's Cascade Lake 56 core MCM processor has two 28 core dies with an interconnect.



AMD's Rome has 16 x 4 core CCX connected with their infinity fabric. We'll soon see how well it competes with Intel's Cascade Lake 56 part. Hopefully they worked with Microsoft to fix their scheduler issue or else it's going to be a problem.

AVX-512 is a large selling point for these HEDT and Xeons for developers who create their own apps.
Skylake-X already has AVX-512 (as does it's 1st refresh) and a core count that goes to 18 on the 14nm process. They are even re-using the 299 platform again with it so i doubt it will gain Optane or PCIE 4.0 support either.


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So no 10nm for consumer untill 2020?
I thought 2020 too, but at least according to Tom's:
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according to the new roadmap, we won't see 10nm arrive for the desktop until at least 2021.

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