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post #21 of 55 (permalink) Old 05-06-2019, 06:02 AM
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When the original Ryzen was announced in @ Feb (1800x) AMD was silent about TR. TR was announced in @ June.

If we follow a similar timeline with the 3000 Ryzens being released in 3rd Quarter, I suspect TR3 will likely be early 2020 (We are almost halfway through 2019).

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Client lineup doesn't hold the same weight as Roadmap. The official roadmaps get posted separately on http://ir.amd.com/events-and-presentations/past-events which you can see the most recent one is from Jan 12, 2018 and doesn't cover the zen2 breakdown. It is kind of hard to drop a product from a roadmap it was never on. With this "lineup" being only for 2019 and epyc not coming until q3 its possible ripper is just a 2020 product.

edit: Also threadripper falls under the ryzen umbrella in the previous roadmap so may be doing to again with this slide.
Roadmaps are clearly labelled "Roadmap subject to change"
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Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
Roadmaps are clearly labelled "Roadmap subject to change"
Language which was clearly rectified in the new slide.

Edit: That old slide is weird in general since the font doesn't match the rest of the deck. Looks like someone hastily added it later. http://ir.amd.com/static-files/37baf...a-db863b905547

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Probably realized they had no reason to rush it out the door before 2021.

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I'm not sure if we need to worry about threadripper this early in the game.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ryan92084 View Post
Language which was clearly rectified in the new slide.

Edit: That old slide is weird in general since the font doesn't match the rest of the deck. Looks like someone hastily added it later. http://ir.amd.com/static-files/37baf...a-db863b905547
We'll see what AMD has planned for ThreadRipper. Maybe it will still be out in 2019 but they were just highlighting what's expected next by just leaving 3rd Gen Ryzen on the slide or they figured that ThreadRipper is currently not as profitable as they expected with the current cost of 7nm. I still believe that ThreadRipper release is still dependent on Epyc yields since I'm sure those are dies that failed some sort of Epyc verification test.

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It could be that AMD simply wants to delay Threadripper till H1 2020 to have more chips pushed into server sales for higher profit.
Or AMD could be deciding whether it makes sense to use a new IO die config for Threadripper. No real need to have a massive IO config with 8 memory channels and 128+ lanes of PCI-E when they wont actually enable half of that on TR platform.

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We'll see what AMD has planned for ThreadRipper. Maybe it will still be out in 2019 but they were just highlighting what's expected next by just leaving 3rd Gen Ryzen on the slide or they figured that ThreadRipper is currently not as profitable as they expected with the current cost of 7nm. I still believe that ThreadRipper release is still dependent on Epyc yields since I'm sure those are dies that failed some sort of Epyc verification test.
Yeah I'd like to say if TR had slipped or been canceled they'd make a bigger deal of it but this wouldn't be the first time in recent memory that a product has quietly slipped away.

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...apart from AMD perhaps wanting to see a.) Ryzen 3000 actual sales uptakes, especially for the late fall and holiday season, and b.) having (potentially) up to 16c/32t in the 'regular/non-TR' config Ryzen 3000, perhaps for a phased release, and c.) see what Intel brings to the table in response to the Ryzen 3000 release and review hoopla...there's the Epyc server chip issue also touched on above.

AFAIK, Threadripper and upper level-Epyc cores are binned chiplets, and the real money and profit is in data centers...Amazon, for example, just announced an expansion of their Epyc-based server base. I do not know what the yields will be on the new 7nm process, but if Amazon and other big firms actually pave the way for more Epyc market share in data centers, AMD is sure to service that first, given that they once before seemed to abandon the server market and don't want to do that again. So if Epyc 7nm pre-orders are indeed rolling in, Threadripper for consumers might be pushed back a bit. Then again, all this is till idle speculation until Computex and related AMD presentations have taken place.
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