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post #71 of 156 (permalink) Old 05-25-2019, 11:03 PM
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post #72 of 156 (permalink) Old 05-26-2019, 12:21 AM
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Maybe to add room for some 4c parts. Which would make the 16c part the 3900 series. That would place it in the X9XXx spot like the 2950x. I think it is actually better that way. especially if they are canceling zen 2 threadripper. And the 3400G was also leaked a while ago. Which is probably a 4c apu. So the 3600 being a 6C sounds more likely.

I'd like to see some ultra low powered chips. 15w-25w 4c chips. Probably the 300GE chips.
IMO this is why we didn't get 2800X- so they can save the 3800X for 12C release.
Regarding 3900X, it's also make sense since the next TR 3000 will can start with 16X 3950X that will be close in performance and more logic naming.
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especially if they are canceling zen 2 threadripper.
I think AMD is delaying it to get some goodies like DDR5, PCIE 5.0 or maybe a surprise under the hood like some sort of eDRAM/HBM. It would be pointless to just add more cores as 32 is already overkill for HEDT.

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I think AMD is delaying it to get some goodies like DDR5, PCIE 5.0 or maybe a surprise under the hood like some sort of eDRAM/HBM. It would be pointless to just add more cores as 32 is already overkill for HEDT.
Another option is they are waiting to see if intel respond with anything.
If they have an ace up their sleeve in a new TR, they might drop it on top of intel next time intel release their next small incremental.


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damn.

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1800X vs this 6c ES:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu...eline=13241660
Can you explain the meaning of those benchmark getting such huge boost?
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Now that's the stuff I want to know about. I'm not one who gives a flying.......about the high end. VFM!!!
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It's also the supply chain. The number of AMD suppliers is tiny compared to Intel. As someone who works with big data and needs to expand data centers regularly, AMD simply cannot match the support and availability of Intel. Despite the various vulnerabilities of Intel, Epyc is simply not a viable choice due to suppliers not being able to meet our demands. Also, with Intel, its possible to get a "whole" Intel server. Processor: Intel, Chipset: Intel,NIC: Intel, SSD: Intel, RAM: Samsung (lol). AMD cannot simply do that unfortunately thus bringing Intel's brand in the forefront.
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I agree. Most countries in Africa, for example, get a supply of oem machines from Dell and HP with intel inside. Ask them about amd systems, they don't have a clue. Most of the private and public offices, if not all, only use intel machines. Somehow intel knows not to neglect these places. Intel support exists.

While you folks are right. I work for Dell and we have tons of BIG name customers calling and wanting to swap out or buy AMD based systems because of the MULTIPLE security exploits in the Intel processors. The latest microcode update hit some of the enterprise clients in performance by up to 40%. At that point not only is AMD cheaper, but the performance is better AND it's more secure. AMD doesn't have the supply chain, you all are right, but with the orders we're getting they are going to be able to afford it. We just had to exchange several Poweredges and start building AMD equivalents because high security clients in the Federal side of the business (think Military and Secret Service) are demanding we sell them secure hardware.

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This is understandable, since if those customers got Intel based systems last 1~2 years while the AVG upgrade cycle time is ~5 years that can already feel the performance and security hit and can image that until next Upgrade cycle they gonna get even worse so they must find better alternatives as soon as possible.
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