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post #81 of 156 (permalink) Old 05-26-2019, 05:33 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post
AdoredTV is heavily AMD bias and none of his "leaks" have turned out to be true. I'm going to go ahead and say the cinebench score is wrong.
I guess he didn't talk about chiplets before anyone knew about them.
I guess he didn't say Navi was still GCN.
I guess he didn't say there would be a 12 and 16 core part for Ryzen 3000 on the AM4 platform.

I guess he didn't trash on Vega before it came out.
I guess he didn't just trash on Navi before it comes out.


Most people who have the opinion of him being AMD biased and saying all his leaks are bogus haven't really watched any of this content and simply hate on him for being different.
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Quote: Originally Posted by NightAntilli View Post
I guess he didn't talk about chiplets before anyone knew about them.
I guess he didn't say Navi was still GCN.
I guess he didn't say there would be a 12 and 16 core part for Ryzen 3000 on the AM4 platform.

I guess he didn't trash on Vega before it came out.
I guess he didn't just trash on Navi before it comes out.


Most people who have the opinion of him being AMD biased and saying all his leaks are bogus haven't really watched any of this content and simply hate on him for being different.

I was talking about his leaks specifically. Not leaks that he has reported on.

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Quote: Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post
I was talking about his leaks specifically. Not leaks that he has reported on.

Those were his leaks specifically. He’s right 99% of the time. He’s obviously a fan of AMD but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t report on his leaks impartially.

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Quote: Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post
I was talking about his leaks specifically. Not leaks that he has reported on.
I think he is full of cr*p. A hardware guy on Resetera has leaked the line-up being revealed tomorrow:

R5 3600- 6C 12T
R5 3600X- 6C 12T
R7 3700- 8C 16T
R7 3700X- 8C 16T
R7 3800X- 12C 24T
-Launch in July
-A few months later you'll get the 3200G and 3400G APU's, which will round off the lower end.
-Those have already been announced (albeit their laptop varients), basic 4c/4t and 4c/8t respectively on 12nm
-Prices all around are quite reasonable, however theyre not the miracle works you've heard before
-3800X is priced lower then the OG 1800X, so you don't have to worry about spending $500
-16C 32T unit isnt coming at launch, or even being revealed.
-Ive heard numerous months for that, but the general consensus is Winter

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ryz...#post-21126183

This guy is reliable.

So it looks like Adored's December hype chart was almost entirely wrong, he got the SKUs wrong, the prices wrong, the APU part was all wrong, and I'm willing to bet that nearly all of the clockspeeds are wrong. Adored was either fed fake info, or made the chart up himself. Whatever the case, he created unrealistic hype that AMD couldn't live up to, especially with those silly prices (which I said at the time were pie in the sky stuff, 7nm 6-core Ryzen for $99?!?!?).
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This is what I sad too :-).
Maybe 3900X is saved just in case Intel gonna do another PR stunt like they did before TR 2000 ANN so AMD decided to go upto 32C instead just 24C like planned.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Shatun-Bear View Post
I think he is full of cr*p. A hardware guy on Resetera has leaked the line-up being revealed tomorrow:

R5 3600- 6C 12T
R5 3600X- 6C 12T
R7 3700- 8C 16T
R7 3700X- 8C 16T
R7 3800X- 12C 24T
-Launch in July
-A few months later you'll get the 3200G and 3400G APU's, which will round off the lower end.
-Those have already been announced (albeit their laptop varients), basic 4c/4t and 4c/8t respectively on 12nm
-Prices all around are quite reasonable, however theyre not the miracle works you've heard before
-3800X is priced lower then the OG 1800X, so you don't have to worry about spending $500
-16C 32T unit isnt coming at launch, or even being revealed.
-Ive heard numerous months for that, but the general consensus is Winter

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ryz...#post-21126183

This guy is reliable.

So it looks like Adored's December hype chart was almost entirely wrong, he got the SKUs wrong, the prices wrong, the APU part was all wrong, and I'm willing to bet that nearly all of the clockspeeds are wrong. Adored was either fed fake info, or made the chart up himself. Whatever the case, he created unrealistic hype that AMD couldn't live up to, especially with those silly prices (which I said at the time were pie in the sky stuff, 7nm 6-core Ryzen for $99?!?!?).
Those seem more reasonable. Also, a good idea for AMD not to release 16c part. They can save that for later. Also, 12c will beat anything Intel has.

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looks like even 8C will, so Every one will be happy(except 9900K owners).
I wonder what about the OC headroom on the cheap 6C parts, if you can get over 25% performance boost they gonna be best VFM/OC friendly CPU that many will buy.
Also this year AIO coolers gonna be even more popular.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Shatun-Bear View Post
I think he is full of cr*p. A hardware guy on Resetera has leaked the line-up being revealed tomorrow:

R5 3600- 6C 12T
R5 3600X- 6C 12T
R7 3700- 8C 16T
R7 3700X- 8C 16T
R7 3800X- 12C 24T
-Launch in July
-A few months later you'll get the 3200G and 3400G APU's, which will round off the lower end.
-Those have already been announced (albeit their laptop varients), basic 4c/4t and 4c/8t respectively on 12nm
-Prices all around are quite reasonable, however theyre not the miracle works you've heard before
-3800X is priced lower then the OG 1800X, so you don't have to worry about spending $500
-16C 32T unit isnt coming at launch, or even being revealed.
-Ive heard numerous months for that, but the general consensus is Winter

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ryz...#post-21126183

This guy is reliable.

So it looks like Adored's December hype chart was almost entirely wrong, he got the SKUs wrong, the prices wrong, the APU part was all wrong, and I'm willing to bet that nearly all of the clockspeeds are wrong. Adored was either fed fake info, or made the chart up himself. Whatever the case, he created unrealistic hype that AMD couldn't live up to, especially with those silly prices (which I said at the time were pie in the sky stuff, 7nm 6-core Ryzen for $99?!?!?).

You're cherry picking things that aren't even out yet.

Adored specifically said prices are obviously subject to change, especially with the tarrif issues that have been plagueing the world as of the last 6 months, after his video posted.

The SKUs aren't proven wrong, as they haven't even been announced.

As per announcement? Was Zen 2 announced at CES? Yes, yes it was. So you're 0/3 so far on disproving anything. Even when he suspects something to be subject to change or fishy, he'll say that outright.

You're really pulling your hair out trying to disprove his leaks, and even then, he's still overall correct.

Remember, at the time, Zen 2 was thought to be a monolithic die with 8c/16t by the mainstream tech press. Reporting on something that early comes with all the caveats that things are subject to change, which he of course wrote about.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Shatun-Bear View Post
I think he is full of cr*p. A hardware guy on Resetera has leaked the line-up being revealed tomorrow:

R5 3600- 6C 12T
R5 3600X- 6C 12T
R7 3700- 8C 16T
R7 3700X- 8C 16T
R7 3800X- 12C 24T
-Launch in July
This looks like 6-core based chip, two chips connected by intermediate. 8C is salvage 4+4. 12C is full chip for full price (look carefully, it doesn't have non X version).
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Remember, at the time, Zen 2 was thought to be a monolithic die with 8c/16t by the mainstream tech press. Reporting on something that early comes with all the caveats that things are subject to change, which he of course wrote about.
Ryzen and Epyc use 8 core monolithic dies with 2 CCX per die.

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