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Quote: Originally Posted by zealord View Post
Meh I have to wait so long to get gaming benchmarks. That is all I care about and where AMD actually performs worst.
AMD provide its own number which show ~10-15% faster in game.


I am not too sure how does that compare to Intel but it should be on-par already

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So far Ryzen 3000 is looking good. If we can get 10-15% IPC plus 10% clock should be slightly faster than Intel. If it turns out to be true I'll get a 6c/12t or 8c/16t Ryzen 3000. If you can OC to 4.7-4.8 it will be good and I'll get one for sure. That adoredtv leak lol.
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Gotta love all these benchmarks using significantly costly binned RAM... I'm sure common folks using c16 3000 will never see speeds like that. Esp. now that 16-20-20 @ 3000 has suddenly become the new 'low' in DDR4.

Another day I was browsing and apparently they're even going C19 on 2666mhz. Really loose timings.

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AMD provide its own number which show ~10-15% faster in game.


I am not too sure how does that compare to Intel but it should be on-par already
yeah I am not a huge fan of those AMD numbers. I will have to wait and see in reviews.

Obviously the performance is going to be better, but we will see how that ends up.

Before Ryzen 3000 launched I actually expected a smaller IPC gain but a bitter clockspeed increase. Especially on those lower end CPUs like the 3600X.

The new 3600X is only 200MHZ higher than the 2600X. I mean that is nice, but I had hoped for a bigger jump, but we will see how it ends up with the IPC gain and 200MHZ more in games.

I would be surprised if the 3800X and 3900X beats the 9900K 5GHZ in all games. Maybe not even the 9900K normal.

Same for the 3700X and the 9700K and the 3600X and 8700K.

But if AMD can come "VERY" close to those fps numbers in CPU limiting scenarios then I guess the better price/perf and perf/watt will make it an overall more attractive buy.

I think the worst case scenarios right now are games like Deus Ex, CS GO and DotA2 where intel is like 40%+ faster, but on average for games it is more like 15-20%.
(I am strictly talking CPU limit here)

One thing that gives me hope for Ryzen is faster memory. Scales extremely well with low timings



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4.5 GHz OC on all cores is kind of disappointing. But then again, IPC increase generally comes at the cost of reduced clock speeds.
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Quote: Originally Posted by NightAntilli View Post
4.5 GHz OC on all cores is kind of disappointing. But then again, IPC increase generally comes at the cost of reduced clock speeds.
Really??? 4.5 @ 15% IPC is disappointing??

I mean, if it's truly a 10%+ IPC increase on Arch alone, plus 4.5 all core, then I don't see what there is to be disappointed about.
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Really??? 4.5 @ 15% IPC is disappointing??

I mean, if it's truly a 10%+ IPC increase on Arch alone, plus 4.5 all core, then I don't see what there is to be disappointed about.
I expected around 4.8 GHz on all cores. I'm not disappointed with the performance though. So in reality it doesn't really matter.
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4.5 GHz OC on all cores is kind of disappointing. But then again, IPC increase generally comes at the cost of reduced clock speeds.
That is a good point. IPC increase also seems to come at the expense of using more power in the atoms I have.
But if you can get 4.3ghz Zen perf at 3.7ghz in Zen2, you could have a pretty quiet and cool setup that you could turn up to full power when you want. That better IPC can give you more while staying in the comfort zone of the cpu's clock range.

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Quote: Originally Posted by zealord View Post
yeah I am not a huge fan of those AMD numbers. I will have to wait and see in reviews.

Obviously the performance is going to be better, but we will see how that ends up.

Before Ryzen 3000 launched I actually expected a smaller IPC gain but a bitter clockspeed increase. Especially on those lower end CPUs like the 3600X.

The new 3600X is only 200MHZ higher than the 2600X. I mean that is nice, but I had hoped for a bigger jump, but we will see how it ends up with the IPC gain and 200MHZ more in games.

I would be surprised if the 3800X and 3900X beats the 9900K 5GHZ in all games. Maybe not even the 9900K normal.

Same for the 3700X and the 9700K and the 3600X and 8700K.

But if AMD can come "VERY" close to those fps numbers in CPU limiting scenarios then I guess the better price/perf and perf/watt will make it an overall more attractive buy.

I think the worst case scenarios right now are games like Deus Ex, CS GO and DotA2 where intel is like 40%+ faster, but on average for games it is more like 15-20%.
(I am strictly talking CPU limit here)

One thing that gives me hope for Ryzen is faster memory. Scales extremely well with low timings
IF that aida screenshot is legit - showing CL18 2T with 39.6 latency - Intel has a real problem.
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