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I can't be the only one to think the standard RTX2060 + RX5700 should be sub $300...

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Quote: Originally Posted by paulerxx View Post
I can't be the only one to think the standard RTX2060 + RX5700 should be sub $300...
Not alone.

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Thats when i got on. The multiplayer action and cable internet was intro to residential customers for the first time. I didnt have any friends for coop on consoles (and still dont), so i played online on my pc. Lol.
Depends on region, where I'm from consoles were very much dead in 90s and 00s. Only recent PC based consoles with reasonable power being pushed and marketed by shops get some sales.
Pirate Computers is where it was at and still probably is. What else would PC stand for.
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I can't be the only one to think the standard RTX2060 + RX5700 should be sub $300...
Definently not alone.
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I'm not buying because their Ray tracing performance is unimpressive and the performance gains in general gaming seemed like they were below what previous generational performance jumps were.

Price jump was just the icing on the cake.

edit: Should point out I'm sticking with my 3440x1440 100hz monitor until 4k 120 43" HDR monitors with decent FALD come around without using compression to make it there at human prices and my Titan Xp's are more than enough for that resolution.
its funny when you think about it. Gaming is 13 years late to add Ray Tracing. Pixar started using it in Cars, which released in 2006, which means they were using the tech in the way early 2Ks... AMD bragged about it offhand during the DX9 days, then it went totally dormant until just now. RTX may be a fail for NV, but it kicked off the tech to the market, which really shows it simply wasn't happening any other way. Near fetus stage level tech, 13 years late... but hey! Now we're finally on track.

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Gaming is one thing, and I certainly can and do enjoy the 2080 TIs for that. That said, they also carry a business / productivity role with us, and I find the (extensive) workstation GPU comparison vid linked below very telling... From that perspective and taking price/performance into account, I find 2080 Tis are a great deal and (currently) the best all-rounder, though I'm sure there are folks who feel differently.

Also note inclusion of some RTX 'on/off' benches (ie Octane), though it is obviously early days for RTX optimizations.

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im kind of shock by that statement coming from you
i mean if we read all the comments from users on nvidia rtx specially prices i highly doubt this cards are flying out of the shelves wccftech announcement of prices just reflects this trend
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-supe...s-msrp-leaked/
Don't know why you would be... Turing was a good launch/upgrade from Pascal, I just can't convince myself that turing.2.0 will also be. Volta was a great product launch, crushing the previous generation cards (as epic as the OG Titan IMO), but alas, production is just not economical at this point for it to go mainstream. I did buy 2 RTX Titans, but was shocked at the crippled FP64 and other compute weaknesses (and that it is only marginally better gamer than a good 2080Ti). Returned them, picked up 2 FEs and a second Titan V (used). Actually saved a few $, yeah, out of a stupidly large number.

For the occasional gaming these rigs do, at 1440P/165 or 4K/60 ya really can't see a big difference in game play (except in RT, but why enable RT anyway?). I can say that for 1/5th the price, the Radeon VII can do 75-90% the work a Titan V does (tho it also consumes 2-3x the power), but gaming wise, the VII is not close (and is only somewhat better than a years-old 295x2 for games, crazy - right?).


If you happen to be in the market when the new "super" dooper cards launch, that's benefit for buyers. If you already have a 2080 or 2080Ti (or 2070/60), side-grade is a generous description.

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Honestly, I have been having issues getting rid of my 2080 Ti Black on the used market for anywhere close to MSRP. I think I might just keep it for the long term.

I was using it in my 3930K rig but it's DOA, lol.

Now it's sitting there looking at me.
I believe the Black is the non-A gpu. That's why it may re-sell slowly.
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Did I mention anything about the users here? The Titan V and Titan RTX isn't aimed at these users. Doesn't mean they can't buy them but the price isn't worth it for them. Just because gamers or PC enthusiasts aren't buying a product doesn't mean they aren't selling.
Halo products like the V and RTXT are just that in the gaming segment. In thje pro-sumer segment they really have little competition (Radeon VII is a shot at it tho)


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I agreed, but when you see nvidia trying to price gouge a 2060 call it super or not is a damn xx60 gpu after all and trying to put a msrb $429 we should know the future dont seems good...
Why you think the pc gaming bloomed the last couple of yrs? bcuz of good prices.. You have company's selling you mainstream cpus at hedt prices you see nvidia charging $429 msrb for a xx60 chip....
where we going to end at at this point?
im sorry but a console its looking very appealing at this point XD 30 fps or not lol
lol - I actually saw a console/gaming set up in a retirement community "game room" over the weekend... musta been for visitors.

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Gaming is one thing, and I certainly can and do enjoy the 2080 TIs for that. That said, they also carry a business / productivity role with us, and I find the (extensive) workstation GPU comparison vid linked below very telling... From that perspective and taking price/performance into account, I find 2080 Tis are a great deal and (currently) the best all-rounder, though I'm sure there are folks who feel differently.
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That Radeon VII was not looking too bad considering how much less it cost than the 2080ti in that vid. To be fair neither was the 2080....ofc from a p/p perspective.
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Gaming is one thing, and I certainly can and do enjoy the 2080 TIs for that. That said, they also carry a business / productivity role with us, and I find the (extensive) workstation GPU comparison vid linked below very telling... From that perspective and taking price/performance into account, I find 2080 Tis are a great deal and (currently) the best all-rounder, though I'm sure there are folks who feel differently.

Also note inclusion of some RTX 'on/off' benches (ie Octane), though it is obviously early days for RTX optimizations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JmWrO2bcsQ



It is the only reason I am considering 2080ti due to finally being able to memory pool without spending 5k+ (with GPU rendering at least), and the benefit RT cores are proving in GPU rendering. Still overpriced for gamer cards. This kick in the nuts to current RTX owners reminds me when they released the better Titan X Pascal, literally flipping off the current owners. I was preorder on the first 1080tis, and after seeing that move I learned to just wait as it would definitely happen again. And here we are.


Over on the Redshift forums, beta testers on 3.0 engine are reporting 40%+ speed increase on scenes with rtx on vs off. Still no NVLink support, but it's coming soon.

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