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Quote: Originally Posted by KCDC View Post
Been wondering if wccftech is trustworthy after reading this on r/nvidia


https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comm...nned_from_this


Not trying to spread anything, just was wondering if anyone can shed any more light on their validity and if I should even consider them as a decent source of info. Or maybe I'm just out of the loop and y'all already know better.
hi, no they aren't trust worthy. This release is just leakier than normal.

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After I had two fail last year I stayed away. Keep my Titan X Pascal and 1080 TI. The vr games I play the difference was only 22% anyway. These were both EVGA 2080 TI FTW3s as well
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hi, no they aren't trust worthy. This release is just leakier than normal.
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Damn overpriced Turing cards dying... stagnant performance from AMD cards. I sure hope the market changes drastically in the coming years.

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Yep, they have to keep the train going and keep people talking.

Earlier today I was remembering how they promoted the totally-not-for-gaming Titan RTX by handing out cards to Linus, JayzTwoCents, etc and only allowing them to show the box of the card or the card inside a system, without context and only for a short period of time. See here and here. Linus even had to redo the covert promotion during the livestream because Linus being Linus showed the card's package upside down the first time. But remember, the Titan RTX is not for consumers ok? We got that clear, right?

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NV is desperately trying to get exposure/attention since they have nothing new to offer now and AMD is killing it in CPU market and has bolted on their overpriced GPU onto the CPU launch.
NV offers highest performance... at ridiculous prices... fail
AMD offers same value (perf./price, if even that) 1 year or more later... even bigger fail

RTX cards are OK when they work, but ridiculously priced when an x60 class card/chip costs what x80 class used to.

All the Super is is a refresh, we used to get 60 Ti, 70 Ti, well now they name it Super.
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Yes, and the 1060 6 GB performs about equal to a 980 and has more memory, so this RTX 2060 Super is the actual successor to the 1060 6 GB as it is supposed to perform a bit better than the 1080 (and has the same amount of memory, not a regression like the non Super 2060).

Anyway, AIB models will be $400+ and if some leaks are to be believed, they will go all the way up to $500, which is the base price of the RTX 2070. Nvidia knows that these prices are too high for a mainstream GPU, that's why we got the 'x60 distractions' with Turing, where we now have no less than four different x60 cards at the same time.
That's exactly my sentiment.

It should have been GTX 980 4GB (165W) ---> GTX 1060 6GB (120W) ---> GTX/RTX 2050 (TI) below 100W but what we have instead is the GTX 1650 4GB and GTX 1660 6GB so performance per watt hasn't really improved as much due to tensor cores and neither has performance per dollar

GTX 980 Ti 6GB (250W) ---> GTX 1070 8GB (150W) ---> GTX 1660 Ti 6GB (120W) isn't as convincing due to pricing of the 1660 Ti and the VRAM

Instead we have these 1060 3GB successor hackjobs masquerading as "60" level cards. Maybe part of that is due to the power requirements upped from fp16 on the GTX cards & tensor cores on the RTX cards. Most of the time the "50" level cards were 75W TDP (GTX 950 failed here , didn't fully replace GTX 750 Ti/GTX 650 in that regard), "60" level cards were around 120W (8800GT was a ~120W card), "70" level cards around 150W, "80" level cards around 180-200W , the top tier card 250-300W.

On AMD's side the cards have completely destroyed the TDP structure due to introduction of RX 580/RX 590 as well as the rebrands that upped power requirement for performance only (negating any overclocking headroom). RX 470 adhered to that basic outline at 120W , RX460 at 75W officially, and so did HD 7850 at 130W and HD 7750 at 75W. Even before that the HD 4850 was 110W and HD 4870 was 150W (HD 5850 was 150W).


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Also EVGA failed on RTX 2060 Super. Why would you make a "midrange" card triple slot? Maybe that's only for XC Ultra version but it seems odd.

https://www.techpowerup.com/256954/e...super-pictured


There's a RTX 2070 XC with dual slot: https://www.evga.com/products/produc...08G-P4-2172-KR

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i think I paid near $600 for my 480. Maybe more? IdK... I had been gimping along el-cheepo AMD solutions, & stolen parts from school until that.

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