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post #31 of 112 (permalink) Old 06-24-2019, 05:33 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Unkzilla View Post
edit: my 2700x system scores 180CB, 9900k 223 and believe it or not also have a ryzen 5 2600 with the cheapest possible motherboard (asrock b450m) which scores 173

Good comparison is 2600 vs 3600 where there seems to be a 13% gain

Probably not upgrade worthy but a decent purchase for those looking to buy a new system. I still maintain the 2600 is all you need for a 4k gaming setup
13% is similar to the gain from the Intel 4th gen i7-4790k to Intel 7th gen. How is that not upgrade worthy? Anyone on Ryzen 1st gen & Intel older than 8th gen ought to upgrade and anyone on 2nd gen Ryzen might consider it. Anyone on Bulldozer or Phenom II should have upgraded already, X470 + Ryzen 5 was affordable and a huge uplift ( at least 2x threads and over +40% IPC).

Also with FlareX 3200 on a bunch of CPUs this is what Quasarzone found last year:
i9-9900K 44.9ns , 217 CB R15 single core (177 @ 4GHz)
i7-9700K 47.6ns , 211 CB R15 single core (176 @ 4GHz)
i7-8700K 46.8ns , 202 CB R15 single core (175 @ 4GHz)
i7-7900x 65.6ns , 195 CB R15 single core (178 @ 4GHz)
i7-7820x 68.1ns , 192 CB R15 single core (178 @ 4GHz)
i7-7800X 70.5ns , 177 CB R15 single core (176 @ 4GHz)
R7 2700X 66.8ns , 179 CB R15 single core (169 @ 4GHz)
R7 1800X 72.6ns , 159 CB R15 single core (164 @ 4GHz)
R7 1700X 72.0ns , 155 CB R15 single core (163 @ 4GHz)
R5 1600X 72.4ns , 160 CB R15 single core (163 @ 4GHz)

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It will sail right past 9900K lol, big time. 8C vs 16C, it's not even a competition, it's a slaughter.
You write your application right and 9900K has no chance with it's lower total performance.

3600 looks fine, matching Intel 6C/12T and older Zen 8C/16T. For more details gotta wait 2 weeks. For an early review, it's doesn't show anything too bad or too good. As expected and that's good.
Stop trolling please. He referred to gaming, not multithreaded applications. It will be another 1.5-2 years before we'll see 8+ core utilization in games.

The R5 3600 reviews has all reasons to be fake because they blurred out the markings.

And no, I'm not defending Intel sc.umbags with their swiss cheese CPU security but people need a bucket of cold water on the heads before the Ryzen hype train is going to derail.

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Stop trolling please. He referred to gaming, not multithreaded applications. It will be another 1.5-2 years before we'll see 8+ core utilization in games.

The R5 3600 reviews has all reasons to be fake because they blurred out the markings.

And no, I'm not defending Intel sc.umbags with their swiss cheese CPU security but people need a bucket of cold water on the heads before the Ryzen hype train is going to derail.
Alright, so I'm not the only one thinking this looks hilariously fake. If it is real I'm a bit disappointed the 3600 is a sidegrade to my 4 year old 6700K according to their benchmarks.


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Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
13% is similar to the gain from the Intel 4th gen i7-4790k to Intel 7th gen. How is that not upgrade worthy? Anyone on Ryzen 1st gen & Intel older than 8th gen ought to upgrade and anyone on 2nd gen Ryzen might consider it. Anyone on Bulldozer or Phenom II should have upgraded already, X470 + Ryzen 5 was affordable and a huge uplift ( at least 2x threads and over +40% IPC).

https://quasarzone.co.kr/bbs/board.p...z&wr_id=187340
Sorry I was referring to owners of Zen+ chips when meaning its not upgrade worthy but maybe 13% is good enough for some ? I think if you are increasing core count to one of the 12/16 chips it makes sense

Don't get me wrong this is a good release and if building a new system, its going to be hard to consider Intel without some decent price cuts
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Alright, so I'm not the only one thinking this looks hilariously fake. If it is real I'm a bit disappointed the 3600 is a sidegrade to my 4 year old 6700K according to their benchmarks.

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I have no control over AVX offset but here is my 9900k @ 4.1Ghz when running AVX.

My 9900K @ 4.2Ghz on all 8 cores: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13657749
My 9900k @ 4.5Ghz on all 8 cores: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13657906
My 9900k @ 5.0Ghz on all 8 cores: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13657956
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Alright, so I'm not the only one thinking this looks hilariously fake. If it is real I'm a bit disappointed the 3600 is a sidegrade to my 4 year old 6700K according to their benchmarks.
Why are you comparing your 350-400 dollar CPU to AMDs 200 dollar CPU?

This occupies the same slot the old i5-6500 occupied, if you want to see what progress has been made compare it with that.

To upgrade from your 6700k your gonna have to look at the 3800x or even 3900x
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Stop trolling please. He referred to gaming, not multithreaded applications. It will be another 1.5-2 years before we'll see 8+ core utilization in games.

The R5 3600 reviews has all reasons to be fake because they blurred out the markings.

And no, I'm not defending Intel sc.umbags with their swiss cheese CPU security but people need a bucket of cold water on the heads before the Ryzen hype train is going to derail.
Saw this in another forum.

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I have no control over AVX offset but here is my 9900k @ 4.1Ghz when running AVX.

My 9900K @ 4.2Ghz on all 8 cores: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13657749
3800x: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13567135
I'm interested to see what your 9900k @ 4.2scores in cinebench
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