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post #41 of 112 (permalink) Old 06-24-2019, 07:11 PM
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9900k boosts to 5.0 ghz. 6700k boosts to 4.2 ghz. 3600 boosts to 4.2 ghz. Do the math.
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Why are you comparing your 350-400 dollar CPU to AMDs 200 dollar CPU?
Not to mention that it has 50% more cores so it's actually 50% more computational power for 50% of the price, not even a sidegrade.

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Quote: Originally Posted by tyvar View Post
Why are you comparing your 350-400 dollar CPU to AMDs 200 dollar CPU?

This occupies the same slot the old i5-6500 occupied, if you want to see what progress has been made compare it with that.

To upgrade from your 6700k your gonna have to look at the 3800x or even 3900x
The 3700X/3800X aren't going to be much faster than the 3600 in single core/gaming is my point. I paid $288 for my 6700K 4 years ago, while it was initially slightly more expensive than the 3600 that was also 4 years ago and my CPU is considered ancient tech at this point.
While I want AMD to dethrone Intel to break up their monopoly it doesn't look like they're going to do so in gaming performance quite yet and hopefully AMD can gain the lead until Intel can produce 7nm.

If I were to build an entirely new system I would go for AMD, hands down. However if you have a 2700X or 6700K it seems it would be a waste of money to upgrade to a 3700X/3800X for gaming.

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I'm interested to see what your 9900k @ 4.2scores in cinebench
The Ryzen 5 3600 single core performance is 6.49% faster than Skylake in Cinebench R15 at the same clock speed.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Pendulum View Post
The 3700X/3800X aren't going to be much faster than the 3600 in single core/gaming is my point. I paid $288 for my 6700K 4 years ago, while it was initially slightly more expensive than the 3600 that was also 4 years ago and my CPU is considered ancient tech at this point.
While I want AMD to dethrone Intel to break up their monopoly it doesn't look like they're going to do so in gaming performance quite yet and hopefully AMD can gain the lead until Intel can produce 7nm.

If I were to build an entirely new system I would go for AMD, hands down. However if you have a 2700X or 6700K it seems it would be a waste of money to upgrade to a 3700X/3800X for gaming.
Thanks to intel is isn't

It's very sketchy review, don't base any opinions yet.

With proper motherboard, bios, ram speed, I expect the 3600 to perform much better(than what this review suggests) than the 6700k. Especially with modern games the gap should continue to increase.
Perhaps similar to the 8700k.
I'm not saying it'd be a solid upgrade, but an upgrade nonetheless.

For the core count & perf. could be a very impressive $200 CPU.

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Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
The link in the article goes to the 3200C14 kit:
https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/20...x-ddr4-review/
edit: I think it's because they're running their RAM in the wrong DIMM Slot or something like that
Memory write on the Ryzen 5 3600 is listed as 25,600 MB/s when the Ryzen 5 2600X is 47,823 MB/s
This^.
If the review isn't fake, at least it's flawed.
Lets wait little more :-).
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looking good the mem latency looks fishy in that review but in good hands and a good kit should make a huge difference..

i took a 2700x all way down to 57ns so i would not worry about that

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Seems like it's still not faster than Intel when it comes to gaming. Guess Intel will keep their fastest gaming CPU title.
You do realize this review shows a stock,6 core Ryzen 3 3600 MATCHING an 8 core I9-9900K in gaming on a non-overclocking bios with bad memory timings, and that is your conclusion?

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