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If we totally disregard history, then yes.

This is the company that missed the mobile train and failed to join later making full use of all those billions with the contra revenue. And there was way more at stake back then.



And the USSR did it over half a century ago. What's your point?
My point is 6 years from a piece of paper to successfully putting a rocket into orbit shows how with enough money (intel has a little bit of this) and the right people (Intel has been bringing in tons of people with GPU experience from AMD and Nvidia), you can accomplish things way faster than you seem to realize.


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As far as I'm concerned there are 3 possible outcomes to Intel getting into the GPU market:

1. They put out a competitive GPU that helps drive the price down of the high end GPU's of AMD and Nvidia.

2. They put out a GPU that is better than AMD or Nvidia's

3. We all get a good laugh at Intel for making a turd.

No matter which of those comes true, I consider it a win!


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It's not like Intel is building a GPU from scratch, they've had DX 11 compliant integrated GPU's since Ivy Bridge in 2012, and DX 12 compliant since Haswell in 2013, and they've made advancements since - the Broadwell iGPU, though expensive with its 128 MB of L4 cache, was able to compete head to head with AMD's then current iGPU, with Ice Lake iGPUs set to become another milestone. The challenge of scaling it up should be pretty doable for a company like Intel. The real challenge is to produce a finished product that people will want to buy and that's where we get to the drivers, which will have to deliver the kind of performance, stability and compatibility with the plethora of games that the PC crowd is accustomed to.

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Quote: Originally Posted by DNMock View Post
My point is 6 years from a piece of paper to successfully putting a rocket into orbit shows how with enough money (intel has a little bit of this) and the right people (Intel has been bringing in tons of people with GPU experience from AMD and Nvidia), you can accomplish things way faster than you seem to realize.
And mine is that Intel always have had the best engineers money could hire, the best fab process and all the money in the world and they still failed several times to get into anything else but CPUs. If we take into account Itanum, node problems or the recent design flaws not even that side is free of blunders.

Throwing money at problems isn't the answer and Intel is the poster child for this problem since the mobile debacle.

If you add a time constraint then you have a recipe for disaster. My best guess is that there will be massive delays.

Anyway the new recruits either joined with those projects already in motion and didn't have much of an input or they started them and are rushing things badly.

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And mine is that Intel always have had the best engineers money could hire, the best fab process and all the money in the world and they still failed several times to get into anything else but CPUs. If we take into account Itanum, node problems or the recent design flaws not even that side is free of blunders.

Throwing money at problems isn't the answer and Intel is the poster child for this problem since the mobile debacle.

If you add a time constraint then you have a recipe for disaster. My best guess is that there will be massive delays.

Anyway the new recruits either joined with those projects already in motion and didn't have much of an input or they started them and are rushing things badly.
Money is absolutely half of the equation and Intel has it. You missed the other part of the equation about the right people though, and if Intel has that or not remains to be seen but it's a definitive possibility.


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We get it, you don't like Intel. You like the company that uses the blue that's in my icon.
I'm trying to parse the riddle.

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Indigo -> HP?

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As far as I'm concerned there are 3 possible outcomes to Intel getting into the GPU market:

1. They put out a competitive GPU that helps drive the price down of the high end GPU's of AMD and Nvidia.

2. They put out a GPU that is better than AMD or Nvidia's

3. We all get a good laugh at Intel for making a turd.

No matter which of those comes true, I consider it a win!
Agreed.


Also, if it looks like the gpu in the render I will buy one, turd or not. That color combination makes my britches a little snug.

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Yeah, they only did AMD cards so I never had one. I kinda miss having full coverage stickers on the coolers.
I still have my HIS AGP x1950 Pro. I loved their coolers which is why I used to buy their cards over Sapphire even though I have a few Sapphire x1650 Pros laying around.

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