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We spoke they heard but it's not enough for lower tear cards and that's what they are. So let's see what they do with Navi 20, as the top dog needs to be at ~$500 US.

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Mmmm gpus are getting exciting again. At least in mid range. I might actually buy an AMD gpu for an upcoming build and its been a long time since I can say that.


Jacketman probably made some calls today though, Yo samsung get that 7nm ready asap we need to send AMD back to the stone age.

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750$ AMD 3950X > 2000$ Intel Core i9-9980XE. Yeah AMD is so greedy......?
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750$ AMD 3950X > 2000$ Intel Core i9-9980XE. Yeah AMD is so greedy......?
very. they need to sell it for $200

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Mmmm gpus are getting exciting again. At least in mid range. I might actually buy an AMD gpu for an upcoming build and its been a long time since I can say that.


Jacketman probably made some calls today though, Yo samsung get that 7nm ready asap we need to send AMD back to the stone age.
AMD splits compute lineup and gaming lineup but still charges compute lineup price. Vega had the best value and now it's even better.

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Fixed that for ya.
I can't begin to express how wrong you are with that statement. The HD7970 has Vulkan support and 3GB VRAM, has FP64 performance that exceeds every single GPU on the market today except Radeon VII, and also will support the Radeon Anti-lag because it's GCN.


GTX 970 had the 3.5GB VRAM fiasco
GTX 1060 3GB is universally agreed upon as a waste since it's years later compared to the HD7970.

RTX cards had issues with cards dying left and right


Nvidia has had issues with people frying cards which is why BIOs is power limited, if you remember Fermi. Even people that didn't overclock had issues all the way back to G86/G84 era, where Nvidia hid any problems with their 8600 series cracking due to thermal fatigue. (https://www.techspot.com/news/30823-...ps-faulty.html)



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I understand. However, it has not been announce in what capacity that ray tracing will be done by AMD. We do know that AMD is using a hybrid solution. So far this isn't the same from the other camp. IMO, we have to wait and see 1st what AMD solution is before we start passing judgement. Because right now no one has seen the hardware yet on cards nor in consoles.
I don't think it really matters. The cards these are competing with are the 2060 and 2060 super. If I'm not mistaken the 2060 will be phased out as the super is a direct replacement. That said, it's pretty widely accepted that neither of those cards are capable of acceptably utilizing the ray-tracing feature they have. That kinda makes them having that feature moot.

If a hybrid software version is capable of being used on these lower cards, then great. If not it'll be just as useless as ray-traying on the 2060s.

To use the horrible car analogies we all love. It's sort of like having a racing wing on an Ugo. Yeah it's a feature that certain cars can utilize to help them keep downforce, but it does about jack all on a Ugo that's useful.
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I don't think it really matters. The cards these are competing with are the 2060 and 2060 super. If I'm not mistaken the 2060 will be phased out as the super is a direct replacement. That said, it's pretty widely accepted that neither of those cards are capable of acceptably utilizing the ray-tracing feature they have. That kinda makes them having that feature moot.

If a hybrid software version is capable of being used on these lower cards, then great. If not it'll be just as useless as ray-traying on the 2060s.

To use the horrible car analogies we all love. It's sort of like having a racing wing on an Ugo. Yeah it's a feature that certain cars can utilize to help them keep downforce, but it does about jack all on a Ugo that's useful.
Yet every reviewer showed them running titles at 1080p with DxR enabled at 80+ FPS.

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AMD has not had real time ray tracing from the start lol, so I don't know where you are getting "suddenly" from. On top of that, AMD not having real time ray tracing was basically why "everyone saw ray tracing as a gimmick" in the first place lol.

The reality is that AMD acknowledged real time ray tracing technology, and they are working towards an implementation in the future. It's not here yet (not even close), and they are still charging the same price premiums as their competitor, who's cards actually have real time ray tracing capabilities.

This price drop is welcomed, but it's not like these cards are gods gift to gamers or anything.
You're misreading my post. The suddenly was an emphasis on Ray Tracing suddenly being important, not AMD suddenly removing ray tracing or whatever it is you interpreted.

These Navi cards are fine. In reality, this is close to the situation between the GTX 970 and the R9 390. The R9 390 was slightly faster, but also more power hungry. It's the same for the 2070S and the 5700XT. But now, suddenly, the 5700XT is not compelling despite it being cheaper (R9 390 and GTX 970 were the same price)... Using RT as an excuse is equivalent of the 8GB vs 3.5GB, which mattered in a handful of games, just like ray tracing does. But we don't see anyone doxing the 2070S now like they were doxing the R9 390.

People need to seriously stop using ray tracing as an argument to get anything but the 2080Ti. Would you pay more for a car that had wings even though you know it would never really fly? Because that's what you're doing if you buy a 2060S or a 2070S for RT.

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Yet every reviewer showed them running titles at 1080p with DxR enabled at 80+ FPS.
Did I miss something? They showed 2060s running ray-tracing in games at 80+ fps? I mean I get the 2080, 2080ti, and even 2070...but really the 2060?
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