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post #11 of 113 (permalink) Old 07-05-2019, 09:28 AM
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I get that games are more CPU bound at 720p, but is anyone actually purchasing either of these processors going to game at that resolution? Having said that, these look like a win, but still lower than I expected. I think I'm going to hold on to my 2700x until the inevitable refresh a year from now.
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720 ???? you the hell play at 720p in 2019??

if its not 1440p or 4k all this review are useless.

1080 its outdated for long time so they should not focus on 1080p but at least for 1440p and 4k
This isn't a GPU benchmark lol. The whole point is to introduce a CPU bound scenario.

It shows what the ceiling is for a CPU in that game. If you benched at 1080p with 2080ti's the results would be similar. No one is purchasing CPU's to play at 720p, BUT they are buying CPU's to push 144hz and 240hz monitors.

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Wait, so these are the scores WITHOUT boost?
It says Boost is on, so that's one core at 4.6ghz.

Being that I overclock every piece of hardware I can get my hands on, I'll be looking for reviews that overclock all cores to different results.

But so far, I don't mind the scores at all.

I remember how meh my Threadripper scores were when it first launched, and through all the updates that thing has jumped in performance. Ryzen 3000 series will be beasts.

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Was anyone really expecting anything different?


7700k equivalency in gaming isn't bad per-se but it's a far cry from a 9900k, although as others have mentioned this will mean less and less as resolution increases. Running at minimum resolution basically allows one to say 'hey, so long as my GPU isn't producing above 'x' FPS at MY resolution, this CPU will game just fine' which is nice and all for 99.99% of users.

For those of us who are edge-cases, where refresh rates can top 200 and each ms counts, having a CPU that is great at running games 4k means nothing when it cannot produce very high average and especially minimum framerates. Due to this, along with a couple other issues native to AMD CPU's, I suspect intel will remain the professional gamer's choice of CPU.

When it comes to streaming however, AMD had a strong showing with even the 8 core 2700X due to its ability to manage the workload well and not impact gaming performance too much. Even with a 9900k and ‘fast’ preset it is possible to feel the stuttering and jitter from the PC trying to software encode while playing. In an ideal world, with so many cores, the processor would automatically segregate these tasks between cores so not to ‘switch’ back and fourth and create potential performance issues. In reality even a CPU such as the 7980XE can be a mess if not configured properly.

I am hoping to see the 3800X really shine by the time it releases, if they can manage to allow for anywhere near 5ghz (OC) with 12 cores they may solve some of their FPS/latency issues, but I don’t know that they will be the 100% performance champion of this generation until we see numbers that really highlight that.

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This is how reviews are done when you need to isolate the CPU's performance from that of a GPU. It is VERY difficult to run something at 1440P or 4K and not bottleneck at the GPU or otherwise impact what the CPU is doing by the GPU's behavior.

Low resolution tests are a standard test when looking at JUST the CPU's performance.
Well this review are Still useless for gaming buyers. For example Who cares if intel cpu are performing better at 720p when at 1440p or 4k its the same as amd or lower??? I could understand 1080p tho those who wants 200 fps.
If you want do test to check cpu solo performance there are other tools to do so.

That my point i really don't see the reason to test it at 720 resolution. Makes no sense to me sorry.
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On one hand we have the scholars who want completely irrelevant and out of touch performance data.

On the other we have sane people who'd like actual, real life workloads results.

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Quote: Originally Posted by venom55520 View Post
I get that games are more CPU bound at 720p, but is anyone actually purchasing either of these processors going to game at that resolution? Having said that, these look like a win, but still lower than I expected. I think I'm going to hold on to my 2700x until the inevitable refresh a year from now.
Yea, a little disappointed especially considering the 2700x is using worse RAM. 1800X until the 3900X/3950X get cheap enough to warrant having that many cores for absolutely no reason.

Hopefully the 3000 series OC well enough.
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Well this review are Still useless for gaming buyers. For example Who cares if intel cpu are performing better at 720p when at 1440p or 4k its the same as amd or lower??? I could understand 1080p tho those who wants 200 fps.
If you want do test to check cpu solo performance there are other tools to do so.

That my point i really don't see the reason to test it at 720 resolution. Makes no sense to me sorry.
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On one hand we have the scholars who want completely irrelevant and out of touch performance data.

On the other we have sane people who'd like actual, real life workloads results.
If you are gaming at 60hz literally any CPU released in the last decade will probably be fine. There is almost 0 point in comparing a bunch of games at 1440p or 4k maxed settings with different CPU's just to find out that they have a variance of 5 FPS from top to bottom of the stack.

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Quote: Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post
This is how reviews are done when you need to isolate the CPU's performance from that of a GPU. It is VERY difficult to run something at 1440P or 4K and not bottleneck at the GPU or otherwise impact what the CPU is doing by the GPU's behavior.

Low resolution tests are a standard test when looking at JUST the CPU's performance.
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How many times does this 720p thing need to be explained?

I wish MORE sites did 720p/1080p low benchmarks. Too much information is never a bad thing when making a purchasing decision.

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Didn't this website also sign Nvidia's NDA 2.0? In any case this review is completely useless. No one in their right mind is going to try to extrapolate 720p results for those who have monitors at 1080p, 1440p and 4K, for example.

If they want to include 720p they also have to include higher resolutions so you can reference the difference. As their results typically won't coincide with other reviews.
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