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Lets see. I'm pretty sure the AMD card will come by the end of this year and I hope it will be close to the 2080Ti at around USD 800 without the RTX bells and whistles. At the same time Nvidia is going to invest heavily in RTX implementations.

I bought my 2080Ti not for RTX stuff but because it was teh only card that gave close to 60fps at 4k, since then i've switched to 3440x1440 panel with GSYNC. That's when i played Control with RTX and for me the qualitative difference in RTX on and off was night and day, and not just me but every reviewer has pretty much said this. Also, i was confortably playing at 60+ fps with one RTX feature turned off and with 2x AA. Now nvidia has a bunch of RTX titles coming up, pretty big ones TBH. Lets see how this difference plays off.

Also, i was saying pretty much the same thing u are saying until I played Control. I had BF5 and Metro, in both cases the RTX features weren't worth the performance hit.
Control might have the best RTX but the game itself looks far worse than Metro and BF5. It's like looking at Minecraft were RTX is very apparent. I still found Control RTX implementation trashy. If you think that IQ is acceptable then all be it.

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That's when i played Control with RTX and for me the qualitative difference in RTX on and off was night and day, and not just me but every reviewer has pretty much said this.
Because developers gimp the visuals when DXR is off. It was pretty clear with Metro Exodus. Try Resident Evil 2 Remake, Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice or some other game that actually tries and you will see how much developers leave out in DXR titles just to buff up the comparison.

Control with DXR off doesn't even try to fake reflections for god's sake.

And not to talk about it halving your FPS when the whole thing is on that I'm sure will only get worse as more effects are added. Wait until they want to do caustics, SSS and transmission.

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Lets see. I'm pretty sure the AMD card will come by the end of this year and I hope it will be close to the 2080Ti at around USD 800 without the RTX bells and whistles. At the same time Nvidia is going to invest heavily in RTX implementations.

I bought my 2080Ti not for RTX stuff but because it was teh only card that gave close to 60fps at 4k, since then i've switched to 3440x1440 panel with GSYNC. That's when i played Control with RTX and for me the qualitative difference in RTX on and off was night and day, and not just me but every reviewer has pretty much said this. Also, i was confortably playing at 60+ fps with one RTX feature turned off and with 2x AA. Now nvidia has a bunch of RTX titles coming up, pretty big ones TBH. Lets see how this difference plays off.

Also, i was saying pretty much the same thing u are saying until I played Control. I had BF5 and Metro, in both cases the ray tracking features weren't worth the performance hit.
Control is the most underwhelming graphical release I've seen in quite some time, tbh. With or without ray tracing on. it looked great on my buddies tiny laptop, but in 4K? meh, GTA5 has better graphics, and every single other DX12 title to drop blows it outta the water with and without Ray Tracing enabled.

you're right, nv already balls deep in ray tracing, as they should be. It'll be relevant eventually, and someone needs to buy it. Enjoy!

Yes, nvidia will keep hammering Ray Tracing, as its the only thing that separates them from AMD & Next consoles at this point. Let's just hope they don't skimp so much next time. Things are clearly whack right now if someone like me is debating buying an AMD card instead of an NV flagship for the first time in a decade.

at the core of my being though, i don't care about any of it until we get HDMI 2.1/DP1.4+ on our cards. They're all garbage until then.

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