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post #11 of 38 (permalink) Old 09-06-2019, 09:26 PM
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slightly increasing ipc and clocks add couple more cores to be competitive prolly at same price

we know that mesh can be upped too
clocks could be upped considering they are now getting chips closer to peak
and we all know they need to add cores completely for content creation

love when people question this slide
intel is admitting to getting their asses handed to them
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Quote: Originally Posted by pas008 View Post
slightly increasing ipc and clocks add couple more cores to be competitive prolly at same price

we know that mesh can be upped too
clocks could be upped considering they are now getting chips closer to peak
and we all know they need to add cores completely for content creation

love when people question this slide
intel is admitting to getting their asses handed to them
I agree, who was called the price/perf option for many years while intel had the performance title... Yep, amazing how the script is flipping now and were just supposed to take it at face value. I recall seeing many posts that had some variant of " AMD is what you buy when you can't afford intel/best" ...

People got flamed for saying things like my AMD(FX) feel snappier in windows vs my intel... And what do we have now, oh yeah "Real world performance matters not synthetics" Mmmhmmm...

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Some privileged information, but I know for a fact that major vendors will have the entire AMD Rome server lineup available in Europe. This was not the case before, I expect that Intel will start to rapidly lose sales. I'm not going to continue to buy their gold/platinum dual socket server chips, when there is a way cheaper AMD alternative on the market. You have to understand that their pricing for the DC is insanely high, and has been for years. Although the last two years they were squeezing as much as possible, and somehow hardware vendors still held back bringing out Zen on their platform.

That news alone makes me very hopeful for AMD's future. Furthermore it makes me very hopeful that prices will find some reason again in the server market segment. I don't actually care who it comes from, but I care a lot about how it can impact our bottom line.

This is important because in the server space, no one likes to deal with servers that don't have a support contract attached to them, I cannot afford to let mission critical services have an outage. With service contracts you know that within 24h the HW problem will be taken care off. If hardware fails that is out of service, more often then not you would just buy a new machine to replace the failed one, as without service contracts, parts are insanely expensive(looking at you and your motherboards Dell). This is of course not the only strategy as we make use of high availability and fail over for services. Still in the case of something like a blade center failure, where you can take out 16 machines in one go, it can be a little hard to re-balance the load, or will only be able to offer the users a degraded service.

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Yes the shareholders will tell Intel "it's ok if I lose money"...I know some crack addicts that are laughing.
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If you look at fine print at the bottom of that picture in the article the data comes from two in one and notebooks exclusively. So it's not even desktop data.
https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-conten...Intel-RWPE.pdf I am mis reading the 15th slide or they say 82% is using Cinebench?
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This marketing is kind of baffling. Instead of dropping prices on Skylake-X right now (or a few months ago) considering this very slide where they admit that performance per dollar is not on their side, they are announcing that the big feature for Cascade Lake will be lower prices. Well, I guess when you've got nothing else to publicize this will have to do, right?


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I guess this means Intel has admitted it lost the performance crown.

Since when does Intel care about price/performance, that is for the low end.

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https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-conten...Intel-RWPE.pdf I am mis reading the 15th slide or they say 82% is using Cinebench?
IDK. I looked at that slide for a while trying to figure out what it was trying to claim. I ended up going here: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...benchmark.html and it didn't really help much either.
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This is basically it, Intel has a few weeks before TR3 launches to sell a few Cascade Lake-X CPUs: https://semiaccurate.com/2019/09/10/...-lake-x-parts/


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This is basically it, Intel has a few weeks before TR3 launches to sell a few Cascade Lake-X CPUs: https://semiaccurate.com/2019/09/10/...-lake-x-parts/
If they are going to be releasing them at a lower price these will be cheap AVX-512 parts with instructions for deep learning for cheap. These will be used all over campuses for research.

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