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post #21 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-12-2019, 08:15 AM
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If they are going to be releasing them at a lower price these will be cheap AVX-512 parts with instructions for deep learning for cheap. These will be used all over campuses for research.

Well, they should better get started on making that marketing slide, because that's the target market where they will realistically sell CPUs after TR3 is out.


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Depends on the task though, Intel has dedicated AI instructions(Deep Learning Boost) and Optane DC memory which are much faster than AMD's platform when used. With Intel's current focus on software I see Intel as a much larger threat to nVidia than AMD.

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Optane DC is not supported on desktop though so it's not really relevant for this CPU release.

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Rumors say....The stock clock gets +500MHz (+12,5%); supported memory speed goes up to 2933MHz(+12,5%) ; ipc single core +3% multicore +8% ; max boost +100MHz so compared to the current gen we might see +18%sc to 23%mc processing power improvement at max clocks. at stock it will improve much more 30,5% to 35,5% so i wonder how to calculate the prices now....
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Rumors say....The stock clock gets +500MHz (+12,5%); supported memory speed goes up to 2933MHz(+12,5%) ; ipc single core +3% multicore +8% ; max boost +100MHz so compared to the current gen we might see +18%sc to 23%mc processing power improvement at max clocks. at stock it will improve much more 30,5% to 35,5% so i wonder how to calculate the prices now....
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You're all pretty naive to think Intel will lower prices. They will simply provide more top end performance at the same price points. Simple. Hopefully Skylake-X will bump down 30% or more.
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You're all pretty naive to think Intel will lower prices. They will simply provide more top end performance at the same price points. Simple. Hopefully Skylake-X will bump down 30% or more.

It's not naive, it's reality. They don't have anything else to compete with the upcoming Zen 2 based Threadripper 3000. Cascade Lake-X is still at its core a very slightly revised Skylake and it's still made at 14nm++. They simply can't put in more cores without needing a new platform, and at that point we're in 28 core 255w Xeon-W territory and its super expensive $500+ motherboards.


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It's not naive, it's reality. They don't have anything else to compete with the upcoming Zen 2 based Threadripper 3000. Cascade Lake-X is still at its core a very slightly revised Skylake and it's still made at 14nm++. They simply can't put in more cores without needing a new platform, and at that point we're in 28 core 255w Xeon-W territory and its super expensive $500+ motherboards.
I hope you're right, but I think Intel has something stupid up their sleeve, like a simple cache rearrangement(or as simple as putting more L2 and L3 cache) to increase IPC. If you're right I will happily upgrade from 7800x to whatever they offer for $500-600. MOAR COARS, right? #AMDstyle
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I hope you're right, but I think Intel has something stupid up their sleeve, like a simple cache rearrangement(or as simple as putting more L2 and L3 cache) to increase IPC. If you're right I will happily upgrade from 7800x to whatever they offer for $500-600. MOAR COARS, right? #AMDstyle
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