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[WCCF] AMD Zen 3 set to deliver >8% IPC with 200 MHz better clock.

https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-3-to-de...mors-indicate/


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However, this fueled some speculation around the company's next generation Zen 3 microarchitecture, specifically around Zen 3 potentially being a just a mid generational stop-gap with mild performance improvements and refinements.

If the rumorsource is to be believed, this is far from the truth and Zen 3 is going to bring big performance improvements over Ryzen 3000 series chips. More akin to the jump from the Ryzen 2000 series to the Ryzen 3000 series, rather than Ryzen 1000 to Ryzen 2000.

As usual please take a huge truckload of salt especially from WCCF, but given AMD publicity said that they didnt want to do another Zen+, the direct naming to Zen 3 instead Zen 2+ could indicate a full generational jump in performance.

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dont forget the 4thread per core rumor.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Rumor-AMD-Zen-3-architecture-could-run-four-threads-per-core.435660.0.html

SMT4 (4-way SMT) coupled with 8core CCX means 8C/32T per CCX.

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dont forget the 4thread per core rumor.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Rumor-AMD-Zen-3-architecture-could-run-four-threads-per-core.435660.0.html

SMT4 (4-way SMT) coupled with 8core CCX means 8C/32T per CCX.
Based on recent leaks and rumors, doesn't look like SMT4 is happening on Zen 3.

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Based on recent leaks and rumors, doesn't look like SMT4 is happening on Zen 3.
yeah, the ones going to be released next are still SMT2 but 8core CCX based on the recent official announcements.
most likely we'd only see SMT4 on either Zen4 or the next batch of Zen3.

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Ah but how many AGESA updates will it take to actually get that clock speed


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Ah but how many AGESA updates will it take to actually get that clock speed


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Acting like bootstrap protocol updates don't happen on Intel platforms lul

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Acting like bootstrap protocol updates don't happen on Intel platforms lul


AMD’s issues with getting Zen 2 to run at rated speeds are pretty well documented at this point. I’m hardly some Team Blue fanboy.


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If they manage to get these out before Intel is able to get Ice Lake to desktops, it will be great and considering the estimates, it's very probable that they'll make it. Even if they don't, on average they'll still have ~ 2% IPC advantage. But unless Intel can get the clocks on 10nm high enough to compensate, AMD will still be ahead, considering how Intel's 10nm+ currently clocks.



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Based on recent leaks and rumors, doesn't look like SMT4 is happening on Zen 3.
yeah, the ones going to be released next are still SMT2 but 8core CCX based on the recent official announcements.
most likely we'd only see SMT4 on either Zen4 or the next batch of Zen3.
AMD confirm in their conference call that SMT4 is not happening anytime soon. Zen 3 will be SMT2.

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AMD’s issues with getting Zen 2 to run at rated speeds are pretty well documented at this point. I’m hardly some Team Blue fanboy.


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The issue so minor that most didn't even care or knew about?

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