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[NoteBookCheck] Leaked 12-core Ice Lake server ES nearly 100 percent faster than Cascade Lake in Geekbench, takes the fight to EPYC Milan

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A leaked Geekbench listing for Intel's upcoming Ice Lake server parts shows massive performance gains. The 12-core Ice Lake server ES delivers nearly the same multithreaded performance as a 24-core Cascade Lake part.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Leaked....453582.0.html
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Quote from one of the comments . . .

"Just for a quick comparision, my 12-core 3900x ( which is admittedly a consumer and not a server part ) scores 48,000 to 50,000 on Geekbench 4.3 for the multi-core test.

This score at 27k, even for a 12-core efficiency-focused / engineering part doesn't seem that good at all. Interesting to see the final results after release."

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Geekbench lol....

Nuff said

Quote: Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post
Quote from one of the comments . . .

"Just for a quick comparision, my 12-core 3900x ( which is admittedly a consumer and not a server part ) scores 48,000 to 50,000 on Geekbench 4.3 for the multi-core test.

This score at 27k, even for a 12-core efficiency-focused / engineering part doesn't seem that good at all. Interesting to see the final results after release."
If the 'journalist' at Notebookcheck honestly believes a Ice Lake chip with half the core and thread count and a lower 30% lower clock can realistically match or out perform a Cascade Lake equivalent they're delusional.

That level of perf gain is impossible.


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Geekbench lol....

Nuff said
Hey, intel hates Cinebench stuff. They are pushing real-world stuff like Word, Excel, etc.

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Hey, intel hates Cinebench stuff. They are pushing real-world stuff like Word, Excel, etc.
Yes, especially since they are beat by AMD in almost every scenario. Do you remermber PI(piiii)?
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Quote: Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post
Quote from one of the comments . . .

"Just for a quick comparision, my 12-core 3900x ( which is admittedly a consumer and not a server part ) scores 48,000 to 50,000 on Geekbench 4.3 for the multi-core test.

This score at 27k, even for a 12-core efficiency-focused / engineering part doesn't seem that good at all. Interesting to see the final results after release."
Don't forget the part in the article where they think 27,926 is "nearly as high", or is "just as fast" as 32,937, as if it isn't only 84.7%.

Without knowing the all core boost of the Ice Lake chip.

While assuming that the Cascade Lake Xeons were able to run at their full turbo for the entire bench without hitting power limits.

While calling the Xeon Gold 6226 a 24-core chip when it is a 12c/24t chip and they have two of them, because clearly QPI never hurt anyone.
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-2-70-ghz.html

While ignoring that the GeekBench reads the Ice Lake part as 2x6c/12t.

While ignoring that they are different versions of the benchmark.

All that and, yes, the 3900X has scores ranging from 42,000 to 50,000+, with a 9900KS at 34,000-41,000, which actually makes this Ice Lake part right around the same IPC as the 9900KS; (28,000 / 12 / 2.2 = 1060, 40,000 / 8 / 5 = 1000).

So uh... Cool I guess?

Oh also, they sure picked a funny Xeon Gold 6226 for it to fight against...

Their pick (32937): https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13136084
Another result (65214); https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/15165382

Guess NotebookCheck is the new WCCFTech.

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Is it possible Geekbench only saw ONE of the dual 12 core processors (24 cores total)? That would explain how that score matches a 24 or 32 core Threadripper.

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Quote: Originally Posted by SuprUsrStan View Post
Is it possible Geekbench only saw ONE of the dual 12 core processors (24 cores total)? That would explain how that score matches a 24 or 32 core Threadripper.
Or, you know, Geekbench is a garbage benchmark that is extremely easy to spoof. The score variance alone is depressing.

But given a 2970WX can score over 60k and a 3960X can score over 100k, I'm going to say that the 65214 is the more accurate bench for dual 12c/24t/3.5Ghz Cascade Lake xeons and that the 33k score is bunk for whatever reason.

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