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post #11 of 61 (permalink) Old 02-25-2020, 01:18 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by NightAntilli View Post
The same rumor keeps popping up over and over. The 80CU Big Navi must be real. I guess they really do have something faster than the 2080Ti. The question is, at what power draw?

If they don't go crazy with clocks it will be fine.


I don't even want to think about how much this will cost.
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As long as it's under 500 USD/EUR and has working drivers. None of which are likely true and it's gonna be yet another overpriced data center card sold in retail in low volume with insane price for a "boost" in brand recognition.
Before they can release properly working stable drivers, NV will release their own 3080 etc. and put whole AMD line up into the shadow probably very hard.

Also right now I would expect acceleration for ray tracing in some usable form from any new GPU, along with DP2.0 and HDMI2.1.

Almost no one will be interested in buying a data center card with 24GB HBM VRAM for 2k+ USD/EUR. May as well buy a well supported Titan or Quadro at that point.
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As long as it's under 500 USD/EUR
Really? A card faster than a 2080Ti at $500? Keep dreaming.
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Really? A card faster than a 2080Ti at $500? Keep dreaming.
To be fair the 2080 Ti should be $699. Nowhere near $999.

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To be fair the 2080 Ti should be $699. Nowhere near $999.
When did it drop all the way down to $999?

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To be fair the 2080 Ti should be $699. Nowhere near $999.
Please explain your reasoning why a card that's fantastic at machine learning, decent at studio workloads should be priced at $699? Just because their competitor is decent at gaming?

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To be fair the 2080 Ti should be $699. Nowhere near $999.
Should be, but the consumers dictate it and they've shown Nvidia that they are ok with the pricing. Unless AMD pulls some magic out, we'll be lucky to see a 3080ti under $1,000 and Big Navi under $800.

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Please explain your reasoning why a card that's fantastic at machine learning, decent at studio workloads should be priced at $699? Just because their competitor is decent at gaming?
That's what the Titan (original) was for and the Titan name was always the 'prosumer' card. Now that's trickled down to the gaming lineup which anything with a Ti moniker has always been associated with. They are blurring the line and it's hurting consumers.

But they found as noted above, that consumers are ok with the whole incremental price increases and they will keep pushing it.


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Graphics cards in 2020, I am firmly in the wait see because I'm not really that excited camp.

I hope they don't ruin it before it ever gets a chance by forcing it to be used with an unworthy cooler, like the RVII.
i think 2021's gonna be the good year for GPUs. Anything released before the new consoles will quickly get trumped due to the massive cost/perf adjustment they'll cause. Not saying cheaper GPUs are coming in 2021. What I'm saying is, there's a performance budget they're running on right now, and its about to go up in smoke. So come 2021, you'll be getting quite a bit more for the money. Both AMD and NV will be careful to tiptoe around that line. Squeeze the market for as much as its worth before 2080S tier powered $600 shart boxes start dropping.

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That's what the Titan (original) was for and the Titan name was always the 'prosumer' card. Now that's trickled down to the gaming lineup which anything with a Ti moniker has always been associated with. They are blurring the line and it's hurting consumers.

But they found as noted above, that consumers are ok with the whole incremental price increases and they will keep pushing it.
It's only hurting gamers, studios and researchers are finally getting bargain hardware. They added hardware that increases performance by 70%-200% compared to previous cards for our workloads at a much more affordable price.

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Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
Please explain your reasoning why a card that's fantastic at machine learning, decent at studio workloads should be priced at $699? Just because their competitor is decent at gaming?
didn't you hear? OCN is full of world class economists with extremely intimate knowledge of cost of production, and cost to bring to market.

$699 2080 ti drops, n these same people would say it needs to be a $499 card. I'm not disagreeing, but pretending like its some artificial unnatural occurance in the market, is just kinda silly. NV definitely got to run around charging whatever they want, but i think in reality that really translates to NV gimped everyone AND charged them more. prices aren't changing, just the performance delivered per dollar will change.

people need to not expect AMD to come out being everyone's buddy once they can compete again. They might cut you $100-$200, but that's about it. They won't be as generous as they were in the CPU segment.

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