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if its the full die, then that would mean Titan would be a cut down tesla? but tesla doesn't use RT cores, right? so then wth is titan gonna be?

and boo on the memory bit of the rumor, but its par for the course for NV. Seems like that's somewhere AMD can continue to beat them, though it seems they've kinda tapered off the high end memory usage thing as of recent. Hopefully just keeping in the bag of tricks for "later" gimme double the 5700xt cores on RDNA2 + HBM and you're gonna get my money.

either way, c'mon team red. let's see a winner.
AMD has a big opportunity since they have experience with 7nm and they are the only one on 7nm from TSMC. They never had these advantages apart from when Nvidia messed up Fermi.

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AMD has a big opportunity since they have experience with 7nm and they are the only one on 7nm from TSMC. They never had these advantages apart from when Nvidia messed up Fermi.
Nvidia didn't mess up Fermi, they were just focusing on the future of computing.

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With that out of the way, let’s take a moment to discuss Fermi’s future prospects. Fermi’s compute-heavy and tessellation-heavy design continues to interest us but home users won’t find an advantage to that design today. This is a card that bets on the future and we don’t have our crystal ball. With some good consumer-oriented GPGPU programs and developers taking up variable tessellation NVIDIA could get a lot out of this card, or if that fails to happen they could get less than they hoped for. All we can do is sit and watch – it’s much too early to place our bets.
Pretty sure this paid off for nVidia.


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For sixteen years, NVIDIA has dedicated itself to building the world’s fastest graphics processors. While G80 was a pioneering architecture in GPU computing, and GT200 a major refinement, their designs were nevertheless deeply rooted in the world of graphics. The Fermi architecture represents a new direction for NVIDIA. Far from being merely the successor to GT200, Fermi is the outcome of a radical rethinking of the role, purpose, and capability of the GPU.

Rather than taking the simple route of adding execution units, the Fermi team has tackled some of the toughest problems of GPU computing. The importance of data locality is recognized through Fermi’s two level cache hierarchy and its combined load/store memory path. Double precision performance is elevated to supercomputing levels, while atomic operations execute up to twenty times faster. Lastly, Fermi’s comprehensive ECC support strongly demonstrates our commitment to the high-performance computing market.

On the software side, the architecture brings forward support for C++, the world’s most ubiquitous object-orientated programming language, and Nexus, the world’s first integrated development environment designed for massively parallel GPU computing applications.

With its combination of ground breaking performance, functionality, and programmability, the Fermi architecture represents the next revolution in GPU computing.

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So much salt here is needed. This should not even be posted here.
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AMD has a big opportunity since they have experience with 7nm and they are the only one on 7nm from TSMC. They never had these advantages apart from when Nvidia messed up Fermi.
can only hope. cuz this rumor does little to excite me for ampere.

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If 40% higher performance in games and not compute only then also expect 80% higher price because Nvidia's monopoly.
All the sub 8 GB VRAM cards are worthless nowadays unless one plays older games, at which point why buy a new GPU, there are plenty used 8 GB cards with better value.
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If 40% higher performance in games and not compute only then also expect 80% higher price because Nvidia's monopoly.
All the sub 8 GB VRAM cards are worthless nowadays unless one plays older games, at which point why buy a new GPU, there are plenty used 8 GB cards with better value.
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Maybe Nvidia will do something similar?

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Maybe Nvidia will do something similar?
I doubt it, both AMD and nVidia are focusing to help developers from over-committing memory.

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Another Nvidia GPU rumor, this one however, has a lot more info and specifically talks about a GTX 3080Ti launch date and performance.
What a damn bummer, its 2020 and we are still stuck at less than 4000 cores for 3080, GA103 and its not even half of the CUDA cores count of GA100

look like i will hold on till 7nm Ampere or the next gen Hopper. Yawn~



I got a feeling RTX 4000 series is 7nm Ampere, this is some serious demoralising news if true.

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I would be really surprised to see less than 16GBs of Vram on the next high end GPUs.
I know, I didn't think I would ever see full utilization with 11GB but so far I've seen a few games that really get up there. I see 10.5 GB of usage in The Division 2 at 3440x1440 and I have a few other games that get up around 9-10GB. The next gen consoles are going to have a lot of system memory considering that they are targeting 4K @ 60 FPS performance.

There's no way 3080 Ti will only have 12GB of video memory, I just don't see it happening.

It will probably look like this:

3070: 10GB
3080: 12GB
3080 Ti: 16GB (or 15GB)
Titan A: 24GB (or 16GB)

And I agree about wccftech at this point, like the rumors are just all over the place now. Now it's going to be 10nm EUV and 3080 is only going to be 10% faster than 2080 Ti? What happened to 50% faster tier for tier vs 12nm Turing?

The unspoken elephant in the room is that Asian supply chain disruption is still ongoing with no end in sight. Last I heard it may lift some time in July. That has to impact the arrival of Ampere, Big Navi and the next-gen consoles. So maybe push everything back the duration of the disruption, or about 3-4 months? So original June-July release window is now, Oct if they rush like mad?

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What a damn bummer, its 2020 and we are still stuck at less than 4000 cores for 3080, GA103 and its not even half of the CUDA cores count of GA100

look like i will hold on till 7nm Ampere or the next gen Hopper. Yawn~



I got a feeling RTX 4000 series is 7nm Ampere, this is some serious demoralising news if true.
been saying it. 2021s the year. not this year. NV's gonna have to refresh this pretty quickly me thinks.

n you smart folks still haven't explained what titan will be if 3080ti ends up being the full chip.

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