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[WCCF] RTX 3080 Ti Up To 40% Faster Than RTX 2080 Ti, Q4 2020 Launch



https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-...-launch-rumor/

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"NO EUV. GA102 has taped out. It was based on SAMSUNG 10nm. (You can call it 8nm?) And the new tegra will use the same process node." - Kopite7kimi

The flagship GeForce GPU is rumored to be the GA102 and will be the successor to the Turing based TU102 GPU we got to see on the Titan RTX and RTX 2080 Ti graphics cards. The GPU will feature 84 SMs which equals 5376 CUDA cores. This is 16% more CUDA cores than the full-fat TU102 GPU featured on the Titan RTX. The GPU would be able to support up to 12 GB of VRAM across a 384-bit bus interface.

The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 is said to be 10% faster than the RTX 2080 Ti which is a better performance bump than both the RTX 2080 and the GTX 1080 which only matched and were slightly faster (under 5%) than the outgoing Ti parts.

Lastly, we have the GA106 and GA107 GPUs which would target the mainstream and budget segments. The GA106 GPU would feature 30 SMs or 1920 CUDA cores with up to 6 GB memory across a 192-bit bus interface while the GA107 GPU would feature 20 MS or 1280 CUDA cores with up to 4 GB of memory across a 128-bit bus interface.
Another Nvidia GPU rumor, this one however, has a lot more info and specifically talks about a GTX 3080Ti launch date and performance.
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Now this is interesting. Flies in the face of most every other rumor and leak about H1 2020 and 7nm process node.

If true, the 12GB Vram is dissapointing, 3 generations without a bump in VRam is depressing.


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It looks like later this year, we're going to have a very interesting competition between AMD & Nvidia if rumors of both companies turn out to be accurate. A GTX 3080Ti that's 40% faster than a 2080Ti with 84SM and 5376 Cuda cores vs Big Navi with 80 CUs and 5120 Stream Processors projected to have 17.5 TFLOPs, more than 30% faster than a 2080Ti. Samsung 10nm non EUV vs TSMC 7nm non EUV.

It's probably safe to say Nvidia is going to have much better ray tracing but in terms of raw graphics power, competition might be a little closer than comfort for Nvidia.

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It's a random image, I doubt they are going to go back to the 10 series style cooler. It may be a blower, but the aesthetic design will be new.

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the GTX 1080 ... only matched and [was] slightly faster (under 5%) than the outgoing Ti parts.
This is about all you need to know about WCCFtech. Not only do they fabricate all kinds of rumors frequently, now they've taken to fabricating the past.

1080 was about 35% faster than the 980 Ti (stock vs stock... yes I know you could custom OC the 980 Ti to the moon and back and make it more competitive).

I wish this trash site would just get blacklisted on here. Nothing of value ever comes from it.

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If it’s 40% faster, it’s gonna be at least that much more expensive. NVIDIA isn’t here to do us favors.

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Quote: Originally Posted by BigMack70 View Post
This is about all you need to know about WCCFtech. Not only do they fabricate all kinds of rumors frequently, now they've taken to fabricating the past.

1080 was about 35% faster than the 980 Ti (stock vs stock... yes I know you could custom OC the 980 Ti to the moon and back and make it more competitive).

I wish this trash site would just get blacklisted on here. Nothing of value ever comes from it.
I want to agree here but factually speaking nearly every 980 Ti could do 1450 MHz (my MSI Gaming 6G did 1500 MHz with an AIO affixed to the core and 45C load temp, default voltage). They were so insanely underclocked from the factory @ 1200 MHz.

+250-300 MHz = a 25% overclock.

Whereas with GTX 1080, you could squeeze another 150 Mhz out of it, taking it from 1860 to 2000 MHz on avg, making for something like a 7% overclock.

Here we see a GTX 1080 at 1860 MHz only about 10% faster than a 980 Ti @ 1490 MHz:

Throw in another 7-10% accounting for overclocking a 1080 to 2000 MHz, but it's not actually 35% faster unless you run 980 Ti @ 1200 MHz. There are a few titles released after the fact where NGreedia was able to "focus on the new architecture" (a useful euphemism, translation: gimp the outgoing architecture with newer titles) that resulted in much more than a 15% difference. We see the same thing today, compounded even more so with DLSS, but even DLSS aside, there are many titles where NGreedia have released driver updates for certain titles to make Pascal looks slow AF.

Take The Witcher 3 for example, where driver updates released after Turing refresh "focused on the new architecture" resulting in HUGE gains vis a vis Pascal. Like nearly 50% easily.

What likely happened is that NGreedia achieved some driver-side optimization breakthrough well before Turing was even released and they with-held releasing it until after Turing was released and then applied the optimization exclusively to the new architecture to give NGreedia a title or two, or three etc to point to and say "see, 2080 Ti is 50% faster than 1080 Ti!" when in reality they could have easily applied the optimization to the older architecture(s).

"Focusing on the new architecture".

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2080Ti doesn't have 4608 CCs like the chart claims, it has 4352. Take this rumor with a grain of salt.

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The sources are very weak here... especially from KittyCorgi with the poorly modified block diagrams from Turing. But it's WCCFTech after all. I'd ask anyone reasonable to take this with a massive grain of salt.

Either way, Nvidia themselves have confirmed they'd be using 7nm EUV with Samsung which debunks a lot of this rumour, since they state 10nm from Samsung without EUV - http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190702000692

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