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[PhoneArena] Samsung & AMD mobile chip humiliates Qualcomm in a leaked benchmark

Source: https://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-chip_id124286

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Things might take a sharp turn, though, thanks to the collaboration between the Korean manufacturer and AMD. The team-up was announced almost a year ago, and its main goal was to bring AMD's RDNA graphics to Samsung mobile phones. A leaked benchmark score posted on the Korean tech community CLIEN (via SamMobile) shows the first result of this partnership.

Apparently, engineers used GFXbench to test an early version of the new mobile GPU. The chip rendered 181.8 frames in Manhattan 3.1, which is 13% higher than the Adreno 640 result of 123 in the same test. The leaked information suggests that the new chip will be used in the Exynos 1000 chipset, set to compete with Apple's next-generation A14 SoC in 2021.
The Exynos 990 has been a hot mess. Let's see what they can do with RDNA.

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An unreleased product based on licensed technology performing 13% better than a product on the market for over a year may seem humiliating, but not to whom the article implies...

I mean, the Adreno 650 has already been released and Qualcomm claims a 25% improvement over the 640, which means Samsung's next gen SOC can't even match Qualcomm's current products. Humiliating indeed.

Edit: It seems the article has a typo; the 13% improvement claim is over the Adreno 650, not the 640(going by the numbers posted). Also, 181/123 isn't a 13% increase, so *** is going on here? Performance numbers are good but meaningless without power figures.

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If this is going to come for 2021, I expect qualcomm to also release a new Adreno GPU by that time, so all those leaked performance numbers might be useless as there is a long way to go until then.


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Hey, what if Nintendo's next gen console runs a Samsung SOC with RDNA? Have they announced anything about their switch replacement yet? It probably isn't likely for Nintendo to switch venders and possibly break backwards compatibility, but it's something fun to ponder. It'd be the first time ever that all the major consoles gave used such a similar architecture for the GPU.

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I can remember when the Tegra SoC absolutely destroyed its competitors. So much so that they only put it in, let's see, the Nvidia SHIELD handheld, a SHIELD tablet, a SHIELD media player, and eventually just cars because they couldn't tame the power consumption. I owned an HTC One X with a Tegra 3 so I know how hot those things got. Hmmm, not really sure I'd put much faith in the likes of AMD, Intel (remember Cherry Trail phones?) or Nvidia, who are still stuck with relatively monolithic designs to be able to scale down their architectures down to Qualcomm's level. But who knows, maybe RDNA crazy-scales down really well.
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I can remember when the Tegra SoC absolutely destroyed its competitors. So much so that they only put it in, let's see, the Nvidia SHIELD handheld, a SHIELD tablet, a SHIELD media player, and eventually just cars because they couldn't tame the power consumption. I owned an HTC One X with a Tegra 3 so I know how hot those things got. Hmmm, not really sure I'd put much faith in the likes of AMD, Intel (remember Cherry Trail phones?) or Nvidia, who are still stuck with relatively monolithic designs to be able to scale down their architectures down to Qualcomm's level. But who knows, maybe RDNA crazy-scales down really well.
Ah...yes...amd...the company with the most monolithic designs released and planned for the future, without any scalability in mind, getting humiliated by the modular designs of qualcomm, mediatek and other technology leaders.
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In the SOC world it just sad that Nvidia has not really been a player. They are still stuck with Maxwell Designs since 2015. Anything after is not relevant to gaming/mobile space.

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In the SOC world it just sad that Nvidia has not really been a player. They are still stuck with Maxwell Designs since 2015. Anything after is not relevant to gaming/mobile space.
nintendo must've gotten a killer deal on em to build 3 versions and 2 generations of switch on em.

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I can remember when the Tegra SoC absolutely destroyed its competitors. So much so that they only put it in, let's see, the Nvidia SHIELD handheld, a SHIELD tablet, a SHIELD media player, and eventually just cars because they couldn't tame the power consumption. I owned an HTC One X with a Tegra 3 so I know how hot those things got. Hmmm, not really sure I'd put much faith in the likes of AMD, Intel (remember Cherry Trail phones?) or Nvidia, who are still stuck with relatively monolithic designs to be able to scale down their architectures down to Qualcomm's level. But who knows, maybe RDNA crazy-scales down really well.
Cherry Trail phones were better at emulating arm than any arm is at emulating x86/64, even today. The reviews of the two (Zenfone2, Leagoo T5c) are still out there and the chips were decent midrange by all measures but graphics.

In daily use I saw that my daughter's T5c used significantly more battery in near idle applications and noticeably less battery in heavy use applications and battery life was comparable to her iPhone 6s. But shortcuts were taken in manufacture and the charging port's insulation crumbled away so now it is just a collectable in a drawer. One side note is the cpu had no heatsink, just that black coating you find on ram.

Is there any ARM that can run full Windows at the level of a decent, midrange x86/64 cpu? My biggest disappointment is the Cherry Trail phones didn't run native Windows 10 as they clearly were capable of, albeit slowly. It would be nice to see Tremont in a phone, but even with full x86/64 W10 support, a video out, and usb-c for a hub, a lot of phone apps would still be missing and sales would likely be disappointing.

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