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We need 6 and 8 core chips that can hit the max possible OC numbers in the line-up. Intel still reigns supreme in this regard.
If all you care about is 1080p high fps gaming then you are correct.

If you use your PC for anything other than that, then go ryzen.

With the rumored IPC gains of both chips this fall, go ryzen 100% of the time.


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We need 6 and 8 core chips that can hit the max possible OC numbers in the line-up. Intel still reigns supreme in this regard.
So, the problem with that...

When Intel makes an 8-core chip, that is the best die they have. When AMD makes an 8-core chip, you are getting the scraps scraped off the plate after the meal is over.

If you want the best performing part, don't buy scraps.

I mean this literally BTW, the 6 and 8-core chips are ones that didn't make the cut for the 12/16-core, and Ryzen doesn't exactly clock well anyway.

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For sure. Which is why I will be paying close attention this go around. I will not be buying AMD again if the 12 core and 16 core get all the clock speed. It would be nice if they made a great cpu for gamers who don't want to stream to twitch while they play.

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For sure. Which is why I will be paying close attention this go around. I will not be buying AMD again if the 12 core and 16 core get all the clock speed. It would be nice if they made a great cpu for gamers who don't want to stream to twitch while they play.
aint ryzen 5 3600 made for that? Or the Intel i5 9600kf. Your choise, but dont expect a mirracle. Its business and AMD or Intel have to make profit or we all lose.

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Tough to see that much performance without the dramatic node shrink. 10% on IPC due to increased cache, 10% on frequency due to TSMC optimization I think.

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I'm happy with my 3600. I just want a 8 core that is made of quality dies for the 4000 series.

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For sure. Which is why I will be paying close attention this go around. I will not be buying AMD again if the 12 core and 16 core get all the clock speed. It would be nice if they made a great cpu for gamers who don't want to stream to twitch while they play.
If you don't think Intel's 6-core is also scraps, I don't know what to tell you. Same applies to the 10-series 8-core. You have the money to drop on a high-end X570 board, a 2080ti, several m.2 drives, and a 1440p/144hz G-Sync screen, but you can't pick up a 9900k or a 3900/3950X?

If you're avoiding the Intel 8/10-core and AMD 12/16-core chips on the principle of "I only need 6 cores", you're doing it wrong. You need better silicon if you want it to clock better, and better silicon is used in more expensive parts. They will overclock better on average, and with how power and thermals are handled these days they will win in single-thread and efficiency too.

Either way you are not exactly missing out on much, the 3700X is not that far behind a 3950X or 9900K. The 9900KS OC'd to 5.2Ghz is a whole 5% faster than a 3700X on average at 144p, oh noooo.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/i...9900ks/15.html

And it's a whole 17% faster at 720p, oh noooooooooooooooooooooo!

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/i...9900ks/13.html

Please note how the 9600K, the hex-core, is tied with the 3700X at both 720p and 1440p.

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Yeah but ......... Will AMD screw over people again? I'm not buying a B550 or X550 until I see clear evidence that they wont do the same next year.
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Yeah but ......... Will AMD screw over people again? I'm not buying a B550 or X550 until I see clear evidence that they wont do the same next year.
No. They're out to screw you over. You, personally. There are no real concerns with their decisions, no legitimacy whatsoever. Just looking to screw you over.

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No. They're out to screw you over. You, personally. There are no real concerns with their decisions, no legitimacy whatsoever. Just looking to screw you over.
I think you might be taking the whole fanboy thing way too seriously. Relax and look at yourself.
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