Originally Posted by Slaughtahouse
Nah - Lets keep the confusion coming.
In reality... they are committed to it as Zen signifies an architecture and Ryzen is just the series. I.E. Zen 1 is both Ryzen 1000 and Ryzen 2000 series. Zen 2 is Ryzen 3000 series and will be Ryzen 4000 (if 4 is refresh). Zen 3 will be Ryzen 5000.
THERE IS NO ESCAPE
Originally Posted by prznar1
Or maybe Zen3+, there is a high possibility of AMD making zen3+, maybe even for AM4 since they moved DDR5 and zen4 to 2022
Yeah, I don't believe the Warhol leak, saying 7nm Zen 3 next year. Remember, it is a 14-16 month cadence between chips. So a Q4 release means Zen 4 would already be Q1 to Q2 2022. If a refresh came in 2021, then that would likely push it to late 2022 to 2023.
So the refresh I'm highly doubting. If the rumor of 5nm is true, earliest for release is March to may next year for Zen 3.
Originally Posted by ozlay
Not sure? But they already moved their other 14nm parts to 12nm like the 1600AF. So they might want to move the I/O die in Epyc an threadripper to 12nm. So Moving Ryzen 4000 to a smaller I/O die might happen.
But the I/O dies are made by Glofo and they don't really have anything smaller then 12nm. So maybe they wont make the I/O dies smaller. Unless they are made some place else.
Originally Posted by Diffident
AMD still has a Wafer Supply Agreement with Global Foundries that runs through 2024.
There is something else they may be considering from GloFo: interposers. There is the rumor of that being used with Zen 4. It takes 32/22nm process or something like that for 2.5/3d stacking with their process. And they already do the i/o die there, which would be incorporated into an active interposer. So just a thought. One gen on 7nm for epyc, then interposer.
Originally Posted by Defoler
AMD are using them for the entry level APUs, and could be some of the xbox/ps chips. Almost everything else they are making with TSMC.
No. They are using 7nm and I've seen nothing saying for sure the console APUs are more than one chip, which is how they did their APUs.
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